(October 29, 2015 at 1:42 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: what position ? that science has discovered how the universe was created exactly and why there are different complex organisms on the earth . a lot of people do think that i dont think that thats what im arguing against and saying these theories are just theories . yes science can and does know many things about nature but there is much that science cannot explain . whats wrong with challenging belief systems that claim to have everything all figured out but do not quite add up?
There is indeed much that science cannot explain. However, the things you are talking about are things that science has explained.
There is nothing wrong with challenging everything; we're trying to tell you that what you are challenging is something that does not exist. Science makes claims you appear to know nothing about, and does not make many of the claims you are making. It indicates to us that you need to learn more about what the actual claims of science are before you pronounce judgment on them.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.