RE: Assumptions, and why you should stop asserting them!
December 14, 2010 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2010 at 5:03 pm by Violet.)
(August 25, 2009 at 4:50 am)theVOID Wrote: Has anyone here ever seen an argument for God that did not rely on assumptions asserted as fact?
I have honestly never seen a single statement asserted as fact that was not an assumption.
Quote:Most of the time i read an argument for god i have to say 'hold up one fucking second and prove that assertion!'
More likely, you are saying 'hold up one fucking second and prove that assertion to me'? They have already proven it to themself (unless they were being disingenuous about it being a fact to them or it was a mistake in what they said (or the like)).
Quote:For example:
Objective Morals:
This one is the dumbest fucking things they can bring up, it's a complete and utter assumption always asserted as fact, and it pisses me off. You have no damn proof that morals are objective douchebags, and every single thing we know about morals shows that they are subjective, you can see that just by looking at any two states, countries, continents or just compare two periods of time, look back at all the sick as fuck shit condoned in your bibles; slavery, rape, incest, infanticide, genocide.... It's damn obvious that morals are not objective so stop fucking asserting it!
Close your eyes in a crowded room, and you can't see anyone in the room. Unless the other people in the room are also closing their eyes, or blind, or have their vision of you otherwise obstructed: they can still see you. That is subjectivity ^_^
Although i agree with you that morals are not objective, the possibility exists that you and i are amoral, and an existent 'objective morality' does infact included the condonation of slavery (i would note that many people condone this in a number of forms), rape, incest (I don't see something deeply wrong with it), genocide (a valid answer that can forever solve a problem people or species). I hold faith against there being an objective morality, and believe that I'm a kind and jovial person, whether that be moral or not. ^_^
Quote:What are other stupid-as-fuck religious assumptions turned assertions that piss you guys off?
"Gays are going to hell"... pisses me off.
"The hurricane (Katrina) at new orleans was caused by debauchery"... pisses me off.
"Abortion is murder"... pisses me off.
theVOID Wrote:This thread is over a year old dude, if you want to talk about it start a new thread.
Oops ^_^
Serves me right for not looking at the date
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day