(October 29, 2015 at 10:46 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: Where in that process does your intelligent designer fit? And what did it actually do?
your just assuming that an intelligent designer isnt required and that lifeforms determine their own characteristics and growth . how can an organism decide its own individual development ? it just develops naturally without thought of its own regarding it.
You should have stopped at "isn't required". Everything after "and" is bullshit.
No organism does that. And you know it.
Our DNA codes for how we develop. We have no say in what DNA we inherit, and how it tells our body to develop. We have nothing to do with it; we're just along for the ride. If during that ride, our DNA has told our bodies to develop in such a way that we are not as suited to the environment or to the reproductive process as everyone else, we'll have fewer offspring to pass on that program to.
As soon as you say it's "decide" versus "without thought", it tells us that you're confusing the organism with its DNA program. The DNA operates on the laws of chemistry and probability, nothing more. The rest is superfluous.
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