(October 30, 2015 at 11:01 am)Rhythm Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 10:55 am)alpha male Wrote: To say that god is evil for allowing suffering in humans implies that humans are persons or agents with rights to be free from suffering. That premise usually goes unstated. I'm saying that, in arguing that an omniscient creator precludes free will, even if successful you've just created another problem, i.e. humans no longer exist as independent persons with any rights. You win a battle but still lose the war.Perhaps you don't understand.......the people who bring this up to you...aren;t interested in that consequence. They're appealing to you, in the hopes that you would disagree with a logical consequence of your statements. In claiming that some war has been lost, it's clear that you agree that such a conception of human beings is negatively valued. You agree with us, but dissonance won't allow you to realize it.
LOL...that line of thinking isn't convenient, so we're not interested in it.
