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Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 30, 2015 at 11:41 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Way to miss the point entirely. Or maybe you didn't; maybe you think humans are incapable of holding God morally accountable for the design of this universe/world.
Logically the omniscient being is in a better position to judge than we are.
Quote:But using your example, if the human told the robot it had to be destroyed because it had merely followed its programming, the self-aware robot would be right in thinking the human was an asshole.
You left the scenario. Self-aware implies that it has thoughts of its own, but in the scenario it only does as programmed.

Quote:We don't tell the animals "obey me or else". We simply eat them or keep them off of our crops/out of our homes.
So god does more than us, as he gives us warnings via conscience and texts.
Quote:I don't kill my dog when he doesn't obey me, if he's just doing dog stuff; I might be upset that he pooped on my floor despite the fact that I told him not to, but if I lock him in the house so that he really has no choice in the matter, then the blame is on me, not him.
Your dog? You're admitting to being a slave owner. What makes the dog yours?

Quote:If we consider Genesis a literal story, then placing the untouchable Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil right in the middle of the garden (the only place they can go) where they constantly have to be tempted by it, and waiting for them to be "tricked" (or not) into eating from it so you can punish them for their disobedience is insane and capricious. I might as well shoot my dog because I left a box of doggie treats out and he ate them.
They didn't need to be constantly tempted. Note that they did wrong, but were then said to have knowledge of both good and evil. So, if they had rejected the serpent, they would have likewise known both good and evil, but through righteousness rather than sin.
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion? - by John V - October 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm

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