(October 30, 2015 at 11:47 am)alpha male Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 11:33 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: Well, obviously, by the time Jesus came along the people in his country had switched from bronze to iron and he couldn't deal with that and so had to go elsewhere.
You're not thinking it through - no surprise.
Jesus typically went somewhere, people heard about it and brought their sick to him, and he healed them. That practice is dependent on the people bringing the sick to him. If the people don't have faith, the sick don't come, and so only the few with faith are healed.
Point being: god frequently lets his people participate in his workings, but they need to have faith to participate.
Similarly, God strengthened Israel against its enemies, but still, Israel needed to go up to fight in the first place in most cases. If the people were afraid of the iron chariots, they don't go up to fight, god doesn't force them, and the chariots aren't driven out.
We also see this in Israel going to the promised land in the first place. They sent in spies, most of whom reported that the inhabitants were too strong to be driven out. They wouldn't go up to fight, and god didn't force them too.
Frederick Douglas Wrote:A prayed to Jesus for my freedom for 20 years. I never got an answer until I prayed with my feet.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.