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Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 30, 2015 at 3:25 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(October 30, 2015 at 9:20 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: As for responsibility, that depends entirely on the specifiic "Christian worldview" in question. Most sects assert that Gaud is completely and perfectly omniscient, which precludes the possibility of free will because the only one with any agency in that scenario is Gaud. If Gaud already knows everything that will happen, then history is written and all choices are already irrevocably made. By creating us with full advance knowledge of our actions, Gaud sets us on a path that we are powerless to change or control, making him responsible for everything we do and everything that happens to us.

That does not follow. Just because I know what you are going to do, does not affect your free will. You can change your mind and choose differently, but you will not as there is no reason to. Nothing that has lead up to your decision has changed, so why would your decision change?

Yep my response to the knowledge vs free will argument is always I knew you where going to say that. And then ask them if they had a choice to say it anyway.
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion? - by RoadRunner79 - October 30, 2015 at 3:33 pm

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