Here's why Creatards might be right

[jenny1972]

im assuming that organization proceeds from intelligent design because thats what i observe to be true around me . i observe that intelligent beings create complex things and objects lacking intelligence do not create complex things  im just asking why you do not think that intelligence is responsible for organization . is it because you do not think it is organization or because intelligence is not necessary for organization or do you have a different belief and why ? the reason i believe the way i do is based on observation

I've already raised an objection to this idea that you observe intelligent design around you, only to be ignored three times: it's equally true that you do not ever observe intelligent beings creating realities, or laws of physics, or anything immaterial. In fact, the only thing you observe intelligent beings doing is rearranging pre-existing matter into new forms and inventions. You never see intelligent beings creating matter from nothing, and so by your own logic, if observation is sufficient to form a conclusion then one must also form the conclusion that intelligent beings cannot create matter, universes, or laws of physics... and yet you've come to the precise opposite conclusion.

Why is it that you'll trust your observations up to the point that they agree with what you already believe, but you'll discard your observations the moment they don't agree with you?

ok your opinion is understood just because i didnt personally observe God creating the universe before i came into existence doesnt mean that it did not happen its beyond my ability to observe such a thing but that does not mean that it cannot happen , so now what is your argument that an intelligent being did not create natural laws/organized processes and why do you think that ?