RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
October 30, 2015 at 11:54 pm
(This post was last modified: October 30, 2015 at 11:55 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(October 30, 2015 at 9:20 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 8:55 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: So.. you do not think that you are responsible for your actions under a Christian worldview? I would disagree.
Also, this seems to be more of an emotional issue for you, rather than rational. Should I be posting pictures of cuddly kittens.
If you just want to throw a melodramatic temper tantrum... I'm not really interested.
What about my argument is emotional and not rational? I wasn't even particularly profane like I usually am. My wizard senses tell me that you're trying to avoid the responsibility of supporting your assertions by dismissing me as angry (even though there's not necessarily evidence of that).
Answer the question instead of dodging it with another question, please. Is your Gaud evil or stupid? Does he plan suffering and death because he's evil, or does he fail to stop it because he's incompetent?
As for responsibility, that depends entirely on the specifiic "Christian worldview" in question. Most sects assert that Gaud is completely and perfectly omniscient, which precludes the possibility of free will because the only one with any agency in that scenario is Gaud. If Gaud already knows everything that will happen, then history is written and all choices are already irrevocably made. By creating us with full advance knowledge of our actions, Gaud sets us on a path that we are powerless to change or control, making him responsible for everything we do and everything that happens to us.
Basically, if I create a robot with full foreknowledge that it will work fine right out of the box, but that soon it's programming will break down and cause it to kill a busload of children, I don't get to blame the robot for the busload of dead kids just because I didn't technically program it to do that. I still knew it was going to do that, and yet I still created the robot and did nothing to prevent this glitch from arising in its programming. That makes me responsible for the robot's murderous actions. The only way I'm not responsible is if I didn't know the glitch would arise, but then I wouldn't be omniscient, would I?
In a court of law, the knowing refusal to stop a crime will result in a charge of complicity in said crime.
If I know ahead of time that Joe Blow from Bogadoh, Idaho intends to shoot up a theater full of people and I say nothing to the police before or after the fact, upon discovery I may be legally charged with complicity.
If I let my infant son crawl across a freeway (knowing, of course, that his chances are nil), I may rightfully be charged with negligent homicide.
The obvious inference is that God has one Hell of a lawyer.