(December 16, 2010 at 2:16 pm)rjh4 Wrote:(December 16, 2010 at 4:34 am)theVOID Wrote: Natural epistemologies like scientific/methodological naturalism have already been shown without doubt to be the single most effective epistemology for establishing truth claims and getting results.
Void,
Unless I am missing something, that statement in itself is a truth claim.
So please explain for all of us how scientific/methodological naturalism (or any other natural epistemology) establishes the truthfulness of your statement (without your argument being circular, of course).
Long time no see Rjh4! Where have you been hiding?
As for my argument:
1. Methodical naturalism is the foundation of science.
2. Science has discovered more truth claims and applications there of than any other methodology, Therefore:
3. Methodological naturalism is the most effective methodology for determining truth and obtaining application thereof.
Keep in mind: Methodological naturalism is not metaphysical naturalism nor is it the only method that can arrive at truth claims. Reliablism, for instance, can arrive at true claim, so can Introspection (A priori truths) and others. There were also true claims being made prior to the advent of science. My argument is that it is the most effective methodology (by a fucking huge margin) and it's even when time is taken out of account.
Methodological naturalism is not an epistemology, as I just noticed I said earlier. Fuck it, it was late and I was drunk/stoned. My argument is my somewhat more sober articulation.
Methodological naturalism is a method for determining truth that makes an assumption of metaphysical naturalism, but you do not necessarily have to be a metaphysical naturalist to use the epistemology though most are (Scientist theists who actually do science work with the assumption of methodological naturalism).
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