(November 2, 2015 at 8:39 am)Evie Wrote: @ Little Rik And I said it's the one thing out physical senses must sense.
If we truly sense anything we are conscious of it.
And the mind is the brain which is a physical entity.
Naturalism has supernaturalism in a stranglehold and the evidence points to consciousness being monistic not dualistic:
So please provide some evidence that consciousness is "abstract"
Actually don't bother, it's the one thing that cannot be abstract. If we couldn't sense it then it wouldn't be the one thing that we know absolutely must exist
You're really missing my bigger point here, we know consciousness must exist because we can sense it and it therefore cannot merely be abstract
All entities found to exist have been physical and not abstract, why would consciousness be an exception and how possibly could it be? What's abstract about it being the one detectable and knowable thing?
You can't really get anything more concrete than the most knowable thing in the universe now can you?
I just was 100% correct in saying that you got lost.
You say.........we know consciousness must exist [i]because we can sense it...............
You see, you say that you can sense but how do you sense it?
Are your physical senses able to grasp the presence of the consciousness or something else?
You give no evidence that your physical senses are able to grasp the presence of the consciousness and yet you state that that is the case when you say that.......All entities found to exist have been physical and not abstract........
How do you know that the consciousness need to be felt by our physical entity?
What about if the consciousness does not need to be felt by anything as you are the consciousness?
Think about.