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Young Earth Creationism Vs. Science (Statler Waldorf Contd)
RE: Young Earth Creationism Vs. Science (Statler Waldorf Contd)
(December 17, 2010 at 1:50 pm)rjh4 Wrote: You seem to be implying that the belief in God is somehow at odds with methodological naturalism and somehow inferior to it. However, it seems to me that the whole idea of methodological naturalism arose from the idea that God exists, that He created the universe such that it behaves in a relatively consistent manner, and, therefore we can discover through methodological naturalism how God's creation works.

Assertion of god is unnecessary. Near parallels of proto-methodological naturalism evolved in cultures without any conception of your god or anything remotely comparable. Proto-Methodological naturalism evolve bottom up because it is seen, when local cultural and religious strictures would allow it, to produce results.

It is possible for certain religious concepts to initially encourage methodological naturalism from the top down as a means, in its unwarranted confidence, to further support itself; just as it is also possible for the belief in Santa Clause to encourage the systematic mapping of the North Pole to enable you to visit. But even if they did so encourage the development of useful things, that is no proof for the validity of their tennants, indeed it is not even an argument for such. The things are useful by themselves. The case for methodological naturalism is complete without the assumptions of that religion, just as the case for systematic mapping of north pole is complete without the assumption of santa clause.



(December 17, 2010 at 1:50 pm)rjh4 Wrote: As Statler Waldorf has pointed out, many of the great scientists in the past, including those like Bacon who is considered the father of the scientific method, believed in God. So I will argue that the whole of the scientific method did not arise separate from belief in God, even the Biblical God, but was, in fact, a product of such a belief in the Biblical God. From this, I conclude that because of the history of how the scientific method came to be, that a position that relies upon the Biblical God is better overall as it produced the scientific method and all of the accurate benefits/predictions resulting from it (the scientific method).

That argument is already maximally risible without the lillies also being gilded with tha name Statler Waldoff. See Santa Clause example above.

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RE: Young Earth Creationism Vs. Science (Statler Waldorf Contd) - by Anomalocaris - December 17, 2010 at 4:34 pm

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