Christian Persecution

[drfuzzy]

You guys are not paying attention to what I'm saying.  I think that what I refer to as the "tyranny of the majority" is not a good thing!  I'm saying that it happens.  It's been happening in  the US since the nation began.  The constitution is interpreted according to how the majority views it.  Why do you think that when the supreme court passes judgments on controversial issues, the vote is almost always divided up between the liberal and conservative judges?  That's why the political parties always fight to choose a judge who has a history of reflecting their views.  People have been denied their constitutional rights from the beginning because the powers to be either ignored or misinterpreted the constitution which was supposed to protect them in the first place.  Since they were a small minority nobody cared.  Christians have been the majority in the past and have often ignored minority rights because they had a small voice, even though their actions were to opposed to the constitution.  I believe that the same thing would happen to christians if they became a small minority.  I'm not rationalizing past behaviors, I'm just stating my opinion in answer to the questions I've been asked.   I think that you're seeing that I'm a christian and then using that impression to interpret what I'm saying instead of just reading what I wrote.

Ok, I just read through this thread again.  

My two-cents worth:  Although you have made some points that made me growl, Lek, you're still here.  You're discussing and engaging with us.  So kudos for that.  

It really is hard to tell from post to post whether you want the US to be a "Christian nation", and hope for a theocracy. (A lot of xtians that I know pray daily for Jesus to come and rule the world for 1000 years, so that's what I expect to hear from xtians.)  And yet, here, "tyranny of the majority" is not a good thing.    But - ok - so - what's the difference between that and majority rule?  

You list possible future persecution, such as not being able to wear a cross, to tell a friend you're a xtian, to preach on street corners, etc.  Well, most atheists wouldn't restrict your rights except for one: don't try to convert us.  That's it.  So yeah, that street corner thing, maybe. But most street preachers are batshit crazy anyway.  I have a street-preacher bingo game, where we sit, pass around tokens, and the board corners are for typical stuff they say, like "repent!", "you're going to hell", and stuff like that.  It's a lot of fun and the preachers hate it when we cheer and yell "bingo!".   But I digress . . .

I don't think Muslims are going to take over the US - they're too associated with extremism.  I don't think the xtians need to fear, there is still separation of state and religion.  Atheists are a generally peace-loving and studious bunch. We're all about respecting each other's rights because many of us still are not free to be openly atheist!    

You see the power of the christian church to dictate moral behavior for most of the population diminishing.  Well yes.  This does not mean an increase in crime or lack of moral behavior - the Scandinavian countries have proven that quite conclusively.   More than half of the population of most western european countries are atheist, and the christians still have all their freedoms.  So I don't think you need to worry about having your rights taken away.  Keep wearing your cross.  Put up inspirational posters at work.  I'm jealous, because I can't do that - I would be fired - my bosses are xtian.