Evidence that God exists

[Mark]

In the first place, you misquoted me, and I have added in bold the portion of my remarks that you redacted, for what reason I cannot imagine. Does it bother you that the supposed god never does anything and never shows up? It certainly would bother me, if I were a religious believer.

I have no idea how that happened. I simply pressed the quote button. It certainly wasn't intentional, and makes no difference to my answer.

No it does not bother me. How many times do I have to tell you, IT WOULD BE A LOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY. Please please please please please please please, don't say it again. Please.


I'm sorry you find it insulting to be requested not to repeatedly ask what has already been answered.

You did not ask me anything; you told my that I maintain a "twisted" point of view and that should "go outside and smell the mustard." That is an insult.

I do not ask repeatedly what has been answered, but I will certainly ask repeatedly what has not been answered.

I asked, "Does it bother you that the supposed god never does anything, and never shows up?" and you reply "it would be a logical impossibility." I fail to see why. Didn't he make the Sun stand still at Jericho? Didn't he part the waters of the Red Sea? Didn't he give Moses the Ten Commandments? Didn't he raise Lazarus from the dead? Apparently the authors of the Bible didn't have your understanding of logic.

If it's a logical impossibility that the supposed god would ever do anything, or ever show himself, then this poor god must really be a frustrated and lonely fellow.

Further, essentially at no time in history has anyone ever seriously proposed the worship of a god that had no actual influence on nature and on human affairs. Historically worship, and obedience to a supposedly divine code set forth by a priesthood, was invariably based on the supposition that this would bring about good real effects, or at least that failure in this would cause bad real effects. It is only within the past two hundred or so years, as science gradually demonstrated that all that was formerly supposed to be an effect of god (e.g. plagues, comets, the various species of life) originates in fact in a chaotic nature blind to human interest. So modernly, people who want to maintain their religious belief and yet not deny science have retreated to this remarkable idea that it's not necessary that God have any real effects, because he's God anyway, and you should just, well, worship him. Because it, um, feels good. It's the incredible shrinking God, really, a pathetic figure. In the old days He could smite Egypt with a plague of locusts and part the Red Sea; He could make the sun stand still so that the last remnants of heathen army could be slaughtered; but today all He can do is listen people's prayers. But be sure not to pray for anything that requires his intervention in nature, because it is not something that He is capable of delivering.

What has changed between those days and these, of course, is not the powers of God but mankind's knowledge and command of nature.

But I rather suspect that if Moses has stood before the captive Jews in Egypt and called them to the worship of a god who would never once intervene in this world on their behalf, but would, at best, cause their hearts to feel his wonderful love during periods of communion with him, they would have soaked him in the latrine.