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Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler?
RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler?
(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: See Noam Chomsky:

https://youtu.be/9CKpCGjD8wg

https://youtu.be/oB1q2tdb-Gw

Sorry, I asked for numbers, not videos. Do you have statistics? Or ar you going to appeal to authority on the sly?

Give me data, or shut your piehole.

(November 13, 2015 at 12:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: You're being a dick. Not all Americans support American policy, yet you're wishing evil to befall them no matter.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: How the fuck am I "being a dick"?

By wishing misfortune on people who don't necessarily support the bad decisions of the American government ... that's how, you dick. Perhaps you'll learn how to consider individuals as individuals regardless of their nation of origin. Me, I don't think you're so bright you can reach that sort of thinking; I think you're a self-righteous flag-happy cunt who thinks that your country is a great place to be emulated, and you yourself do not even see the blinders you place over your own peripheral vision.

That's how you're being a dick ... Dick.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: I just want what the US military does to other governments and civilians done to the US government and US civilians.

Yes, because two wrongs make a right, dipshit.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: You don't seem to understand the concept of what I'm trying to get across to you. The Israeli occupation in the Levant is no different to if an invading force decided to occupy the United States and then force all the pre-existing North Americans out into tiny reserves, and enslave those who want to live alongside the white invaders. And while you're at it, pass legislation that makes them non-citizens, or citizens with fewer rights.

You don't think I understand this, because I don't agree with your view. I've got much deeper roots in this than you yourself know, but I'll let you spin your line out, in order that you shall make a bigger fool of yourself.

Or, alternatively, you could perhaps quit assuming rectitude and you know, uh, listen? Are you that wise?

My great-grandmother was Blackfoot; that branch of my family was exterminated. You, a lily-white Aussie who doesn't know his ass from his elbow about American racial dynamics, lecturing me about this stuff is rich, but trust me -- you're very PC, but you're not compelling. You read like you're chasing a viewpoint, rather than speaking from it. I'm sure you think that your words are useful, and perhaps to you they are -- but don't you use me to salve your own guilt. You'll have to get over that on your own.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: Oh wait, that already happened, didn't it? A similar thing happened in Australia (although we never enslaved the Indigenous people); and that was because at the time we were following the conventional 18th/19th century wisdom of colonialism and assimilation. Under that world-view the rights of the indigenous populations didn't matter. We now know that such policies are very harmful for people.

Now, if you compare countries by how they treat their indigenous peoples, you find something very interesting. In the vast majority of the world they refuse to recognise the indigenous occupants of the land; so we actually don't know a lot about many indigenous cultures that continue to be oppressed. Almost every country (if not every) in the world has indigenous people - the Māori in New Zealand are probably among the best treated indigenous people anywhere in the world. You have other countries like Canada, Australia, China, India, the USA, and Japan that recognise their indigenous populations and give them some rights, but on a scale of who treats their indigenous populations better - you have places like Canada and Australia, you have the USA that kind of looks at them as a "problem", but gives them some support, and you have places like Japan that unapologetically treat their indigenous people like utter shit.

I'm sure you've read a lot of books. At least, this portion of your post seems to present that facade. Tell us, how many parts of the world have you, yourself, lived in? Have you traveled outside of Australia? You don't read like it. You read like a patriotic bumpkin who thinks his country is better than others.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: And then you have Israel. They believe they are the rightful owners of the land because they are Jewish; but the Palestinians believe they are the rightful owners because they have been indigenous to the land for 12 centuries. This whole conflict was started by the UK invading Palestine in 1917. If not for that colonial invasion Palestine would today be a united State.

What this has to do with my reply is beyond me. Perhaps you could stick to the point rather than insert your own obvious agenda anywhere you see fit? Dipshit.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: Anyway, my point is by continuing to support Israel, the United States is supporting them to oppress the indigenous Arab population of the land. And that is exactly what Israel has been doing from the start - they are displacing the indigenous population so they can possess the land for themselves. The way they did this was by purchasing the land from Arabs, putting it into a fund (Jewish National Fund) with the proviso that the land can never be sold back or even leased to the Palestinian people. It's a policy of deliberate oppression, expansion, and conquest. The problem the Palestinian people have is that they were not supported by other Arab States.

And yes, that justifies As for war hungry countries like the United States, I hope to God one day that Russia or Saudi or India or China starts war in their country and puts them in their goddamned place, because we all know that the answer to misery is more misery.

Really, are you this stupid, or is this just a play you're putting on for kicks? The answer to oppression is not more oppression. The answer to suffering is not more suffering. The answer to death is not more death,

If you're so dull you cannot see that much, I can only be happy you're in a place so irrelevant that you have no weight to throw around. Also, I hope the other poms are a few points brighter than you. You're not exactly the sharpest blade on the chopping block.

(November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Aractus Wrote: As for war hungry countries like the United States, I hope to God one day that Russia or Saudi or India or China starts war in their country and puts them in their goddamned place.So you can't fucking tell me with a straight face that America doesn't deserve to feel the same oppression that they have bestowed upon others. I'll be very happy when someone invades America (again) and displaces the present inhabitants and confines them to tiny camps and settlements, and maybe that will stop them from instigating wars everywhere else.

That's because in your infantile desire for revenge, you're unable to see that misery for one person is misery for all. I'll recommend you go reread your Locke, and ponder what it means to be an island or a continent, if you are able to think that deeply; and I'll challenge you to drop your parochial views, if you're able to do so. Color me skeptical.

And I'll repeat my call, that you're being a dick, and you should stop it ... except that by now, it's clear you don't have the wisdom to avoid throwing good money after bad.

Dick.

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RE: Given a chance would you kill baby Hitler? - by Aractus - November 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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