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Eliminating Religion?
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RE: Eliminating Religion?
(December 23, 2010 at 11:30 pm)Marx Wrote: You cannot eliminate religion wholly;
Who ever said we were trying to? I cannot speak for all atheists. However, the majority of atheists are not extremists who are plotting to physically dismantle religious establishments or seek to oppress theological movements and their followers in general. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in god or gods. I personally regard religion broadly as fiction i.e. highly imaginative and lacking any kind of realism. Now one can be a non-believer and an anti-theist, as you indirectly implied, yet one can be an atheist and also be pro-democratic where they support people's rights and freedoms. As a law-abiding citizen, I back laws and statutory instruments that prevent censorship of an individual's or group's right to speak freely.

It's very important you recognise that atheism, anti-theism and pro-theism are not mutually exclusive.

Now, addressing this prospect of yours about "eliminating religion". You're being very vague. What do you mean exactly? I think you'll appreciate its not an objective entity in reality, it does not exist, its merely a system of mental concepts and constructs people can subscribe to, often without question or choice if they indoctrinated from childhood or peer pressure. You'll find time is more than capable of rendering any such movements and cults defunct, given enough of it. Mythologies such as Nordic, Greek and so on are essentially rendered 'obsolete' despite revival attempts by various organisations. Religions often incorporate or absorb each other and others such as Zoroastrianism are dying out from a lack of followers as we speak.


Quote:there are individuals who need to believe there is something superior to look forward to, merely beyond the material world and towards the afterlife.
Doesn't change the cold fact that when one's biologically dead all brain activity, conscious thought and self-awareness ceases to function, they're dead. If such immature people who can't handle the truth want to believe said rot, then its their privilege, they are entitled to think that, though I frown upon them advertising their beliefs of an afterlife. I discourage them seeking to have it taught in educational establishments where it doesn't belong, even more so when they actually threaten others for simply not believing their garbage with "eternal damnation".


Quote:Religion will always be a part of humanity
I don't claim to know if religion will always be a part of society or not in the near or unforeseeable future. You on the other hand are making a huge claim to knowledge by saying it is indefinite as long as we exist. Care to back up your claim?


Quote:It provides a “truth” which creates safety and specialty, for a person who can strive to ignore reality; it can be used merely as a crutch for some individuals.
Atheists are not trying to take away safety nets for hopelessly convinced people, however if the delusional party in question hopes to ignore the objective real-world around them, and the consequences of cause and effect, they are deliberately opening themselves and everyone else around them to every kind of abuse conceivable. Their subjective beliefs enforce their actions. They are still accountable regardless of whatever they may think is "objectively true". If they cannot function in a cooperative society like the rest of us they'll inevitably find themselves rejected by others own standards of approval or even removed from society altogether if acts of violence are sought in the name of that belief.


Quote:I'm not a religious person, I'm Agnostic. But I think if you're an Atheist...
So what are you exactly if you mind me asking? An agnostic theist?
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Messages In This Thread
Eliminating Religion? - by Marx - December 23, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2010 at 11:35 pm
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Marx - December 23, 2010 at 11:43 pm
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2010 at 11:51 pm
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by theVOID - December 24, 2010 at 12:07 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Marx - December 25, 2010 at 12:39 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Anomalocaris - December 24, 2010 at 3:21 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Kromoh - December 27, 2010 at 5:06 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Anomalocaris - December 27, 2010 at 5:45 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Kromoh - December 27, 2010 at 6:51 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Anomalocaris - December 27, 2010 at 6:59 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Welsh cake - December 27, 2010 at 6:25 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Anomalocaris - December 27, 2010 at 6:45 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by Edwardo Piet - December 27, 2010 at 9:33 am
RE: Eliminating Religion? - by harsanity - December 27, 2010 at 3:08 pm

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