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fairy tales and lies
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RE: fairy tales and lies
(November 15, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Laika Wrote:
Quote:Have you ever considered the Placebo Effect?

Yes.


Quote:The natural sciences are the way we understand our world and our universe. The stuff "beyond" it (the supernatural) either a) does not exist or b) exists but cannot interact or have an effect on the natural world, thus making it useless and inconsequential to believe in. Why is the second statement so? Because if something exists beyond the natural world (supernatural) and it intervenes in the natural world, then that intervention becomes natural, and subject to natural laws. It becomes testable and measurable by science, because science is the tool used to study the natural world. However, because there is no evidence for such interventions, and because most of it can be explained by an individual's brain simply believing it to be true, it's doubtful that god exists and is doing things for you himself. Once again, refer to the Placebo Effect or the Self-Fulfilling Prophecy.

The natural sciences are one of the ways we understand our world and our universe.  Since all supernatural intervention becomes testable and measurable by science, are you saying that if God reveals his existence to me, and I come to know him, I must be able to show you in a scientific manner that this really happened?  I am not to trust my experience unless science can prove it?  And you will completely disregard my testimony if it violates the laws of nature?
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fairy tales and lies - by drfuzzy - November 8, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by LastPoet - November 8, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by drfuzzy - November 8, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by houseofcantor - November 8, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by drfuzzy - November 8, 2015 at 10:03 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by jenny1972 - November 8, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Athene - November 8, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Cyberman - November 9, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 8, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Aroura - November 8, 2015 at 6:24 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 9, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by brewer - November 8, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by dyresand - November 8, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by brewer - November 9, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 9, 2015 at 5:38 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by KevinM1 - November 9, 2015 at 8:47 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 10, 2015 at 3:18 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 10, 2015 at 4:48 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 10, 2015 at 2:54 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Lek - November 9, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by drfuzzy - November 9, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 10, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 10, 2015 at 4:52 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by drfuzzy - November 10, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 10, 2015 at 11:40 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 11, 2015 at 2:44 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Lek - November 15, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Vincent - November 15, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Lek - November 15, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Vincent - November 15, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by drfuzzy - November 15, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by IATIA - November 15, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Lek - November 15, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Vincent - November 15, 2015 at 6:32 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Lek - November 15, 2015 at 11:54 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by IATIA - November 15, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Cyberman - November 15, 2015 at 5:51 pm
RE: fairy tales and lies - by Vincent - November 16, 2015 at 1:58 am
RE: fairy tales and lies - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 2:09 am

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