(November 15, 2015 at 1:55 pm)Lek Wrote:(November 15, 2015 at 1:26 pm)robvalue Wrote: No, I'm saying it's stupid to say you know loads of things about God while not giving any evidence as to how you could possibly know any of it (or even that it exists at all).
It comes down to what we consider to be evidence Rob. I see the existence of life as evidence to support my belief in God. I see his intervention in my life as evidence for his existence. I see the testimonies of others as to how he has worked in their lives as evidence. You have your criteria as to what it would take to make you believe, and these things don't meet that criteria. Okay. I agree that these things are not evidence according to how you define evidence, but you can't go inside others and experience what they experience. It is also true that if you are unwilling to step outside the boundaries of natural sciences, then you won't experience God because God is outside the boundaries of natural science, and that's your prerogative to do so.
When I still believed, I did the same thing. I clearly remember driving to school one day, and suddenly pulled my car over into an empty space on the grass by the road. A car careened by, driving erratically and way too fast, missing the back of my car by inches. I remember telling my friends that an angel must have been looking out for me, and gave me a nudge. It was a lovely little story, and a lovely little feeling, to think that some supernatural being was saving me from danger. Funny how I just dismissed the idea that I saw a car coming up way too fast in my mirrors.
It's easy to point to things that could be coincidences, and massage your ego by telling yourself a deity is working in your life. It's really hard for anyone to prove that these things are actual god-interventions, which makes them even more attractive for a lot of folks.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
