(November 15, 2015 at 6:59 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: TruthIsGod, with all due respect, what do you hope to achieve. Do you think the whole forum will implode? I won a debate recently. My opponent was not able to defeat the 5 Ways of Aquinas. Some spectators claimed that he did a bad job and that they could have done better. They haven't. The Five Ways remain decisive.
Damn it Chad!!!(I always wanted to say that.)
Anyways, I can defeat those "five ways" quite easily.
1. Something cannot start moving without a mover, and therefor a God must exist.
Okay, then where did God come from, and how do you convert that God from being any other God?
That isn't even using my own words. My own words, you say? YOUR SOLUTION CANNOT VILOATE IT'S PREMISE. When you ask what is Red, you can't say the color Pink. That violates the premise.
2. Nothing comes from Nothing, then where does God come from? God's God of course, but what then? Do we have an endless line of Gods?
Damn it Chad, you call this winning a Debate? This is intellectual dishonesty. I am aware the best Christian Apologetics use it, but real Scientists don't.