(November 16, 2015 at 1:37 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(November 15, 2015 at 6:20 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: When will Barrack Obama give back his Nobel Peace Prize? Someone needs to take away his Nobel Peace Prize. He has made the world a more dangerous place.
But, by the way, AtlasS33, the gunmen knew Paris too well to be refugees I think - otherwise I agree with the video. At least 10% of Syrians are Christian and you have loads of Druze as well, and Shia and non-religious, who all want to escape DAESH. And altogether that's maybe 30% of Syrians. There's easy ways we can find out who is Christian and who radical Sunni:
1. We could see if they are willing to commit Shirk at the border - because believing Jesus is a deity is Shirk. We might also ask them if they are religious or not.
2. And then we find out their opinion of Ali and Aisha (to see if they are Sunni or Shia)
3. And then they can beat the DAESH flag and books written by Abdul Wahaab with a shoe for a couple of minutes too, but they have to do it with enthusiasm, just to make sure they're not lying.
If they fail the test then we don't let them in.
Christopher Greene always took an "anti immigration" stance, he's hotheaded, and that leads him to believe weird stuff and believe rumors sometimes. But two minutes with him, worth 24 hours of mainstream media to me.
The coordination of the attacks too is not something that Jihadists would do. Jihadists -in their own homeland- are very bad when it comes to tactics, it's enough that the saggy Arab armies -ones like Kuwait's or Egypt- are enough to combat them and actually win twice. They are more like gangs; they can't even level up to an "army". How did they do such an attack ?
Then, you have the guns in the concert. I for one fact, know that an AK is too big to hide; even smaller versions like the AKS-74U can't be hidden; these are military grade rifles. How did they pass security ?
You can rule out the possibility of them "shooting from a far range" since the French government -and eye witneses- said they were inside the concert.
You can bet of course that the next ISIS attack would be with submachine guns since they are smaller and can be hidden inside coats or pants. Of course
Another thing : security was supposed to be tight already since the president was watching a match nearby. The concert had "The Eagles" inside and that's an "international event". Where the hell is security ?
Dogs alone can smell gunpowder and bombs from a very far distance, where were the K9s ? or did France decided out of a sudden not to use them?
I'm not saying that the blood is on Holland's hands.
But in Charlie Hebdo, people too reported that the security was fishy and weird.
You can trust me though on that Shia are not so nice. They are as terrible as Sunna, and actually have their own cutthroat militias across Iraq and Syria, though since they are a minority they just practice taqyia more often. ISIS is Sunni "Only" because Sunna are the majority. If it was vise versa, ISIS would've became Shia.
Atlas, we've jousted on here before, but for the main part, I agree with most fo what you have said here......apart from this. I can assure you that the IS jihadists are more than capable of this type of attack.....the planning and coordination are being well over played in the media.....8 gunman, in a capital city, strapped with suicide belts, would be disappointed with the death toll. I say this with a heavy heart and in no way meant to disrespect aanyone here, but this attack has all the hallmarks of a Jihadist attack.
3 suicide bombers outside Stad-de-Paris with no casualties and 80,000 people inside? Come on, this was amateurish.
You question them getting their rifles past security? Which security? The non-existent security on the borders? Or the "security" on the door at the Bataclan? We're talking Friday night bouncers here, unarmed and on a measly wage. Think about it.
You keep asking about the "security?" I'm not entirely sure what you are expecting? The streets covered in armed police and Bomb disposal units at every corner?
The questions should not be directed at the forces on the ground, for what they were, they should be directed at the intelligence services. A ball was dropped, big time... there is no way an attack like this remains totally radio silent in the staging week before the attack...no way.
Playing the blame game is pure deflection at this point though......those cowardly fucks are the only ones to blames, if there is a God, may he fu(k them in the ass for all eternity.