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Australia launches Anti-Islam Party
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RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party
(November 16, 2015 at 4:48 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 16, 2015 at 1:36 pm)Dystopia Wrote: To be fair, that's not the only party whose members are mostly criminal, if ya know what I mean...

But what you fail to get is, that all of these parties are like vampires. The feed on fear. If there's no fear, they would get no votes, since they have nothing to offer besides fearmongering, nationalism and bigotry. I would think, someone in Portugal could relate, since it's not that long since the regime established by Salazar has been overthrown. Only 41 short years. The fact, that you're younger than that, doesn't excuse you're falling for the pied pipers.

You are not seeing the point here - My point is that every party has criminals in it, the difference is that mainstream parties have corrupt people who steal money and benefit corporations, while smaller parties simply have people who murdered others, robbed, etc - I was saying that it's not a valid argument to say everyone in (example) the Golden Dawn is a criminal when mainstream parties have pretty much betrayed the Greek people.

Aside from that I'd like to note that our far-right party is very different from Salazar's policy - One thing to keep in mind is that this kind of racism is not appealing because Portuguese were never this racist - Was Salazar racist? Probably, he did keep the colonies, but he also allowed mixed marriages between Portuguese whites and Africans from the colonies. Salazar basically had a sort of Catholic doctrine coupled with authoritarianism and traditionalism, but he was very different from someone like Mussolini, not even comparable. Arguably, our extremist party is very distinct because it is strongly anti-semitic, while Salazar actually disagreed with Hitler and helped Jews during the war.

I wasn't saying "X party is good", I was saying that most are bad, it is ironic to say the far-right is criminal when the centrist parties benefit corporations above all and damage the working class, specifically in Portugal. Why do you think so many of us are emigrating en masse? It's not a coincidence. Everything is getting so damn expensive. There are no safe jobs, everything is temporary and you better do what you're told otherwise you're fired. Social support is not that high as many people believe and can barely help people with children. I think if we were to turn to extremism, we would certainly prefer a more far-left, pro-workers party.

As for feeding on fear - I actually believe that all those parties think they are right, and think that they can save the world. All parties feed on something, it can be fear, but it can also be ignorance and despair. Most mainstream parties rely on false expectations. "Yes, we will raises salaries" - You vote for them, and then "We actually meant we are going to lower salaries"
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by mralstoner - October 28, 2015 at 12:17 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by WinterHold - October 28, 2015 at 12:25 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by mralstoner - October 28, 2015 at 1:14 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by WinterHold - October 28, 2015 at 2:59 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Thumpalumpacus - October 28, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by mralstoner - October 28, 2015 at 1:05 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Thumpalumpacus - October 28, 2015 at 2:47 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Silver - October 28, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Mechaghostman2 - November 16, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 8:10 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 8:18 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 9:18 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by LastPoet - November 16, 2015 at 9:40 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 9:52 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Esquilax - November 16, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by abaris - November 16, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Iroscato - November 16, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by ReptilianPeon - November 16, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by abaris - November 16, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by LastPoet - November 16, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by LastPoet - November 16, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by abaris - November 16, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Dystopia - November 16, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by abaris - November 16, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: Australia launches Anti-Islam Party - by Brian37 - November 16, 2015 at 1:24 pm

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