(November 16, 2015 at 5:38 pm)Evie Wrote:(November 16, 2015 at 5:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So if it can be done for atheistic reason you don't need the club. I warn atheists too, not to go around claiming "when we get to be the majority, we will treat you better. When Stenger says we are doing it, he means atheists as well. "Atheist" is only "off" on god claims. Not even that word will determine if an individual will act in kindness or violence.
Ummmm nothing can be done for an atheistic reason other than not believing in God(s).
Huh? Not sure what you are arguing. Evolutionary science says that all of our human behaviors are a result of evolution, and since atheists are human too, that means we are just as subject the full range of human behaviors as religious people. "Atheist" does not denote morality, it doesn't even tell you what the education level of that individual is. I've run into individuals who call themselves "atheist" but stop at "that simply makes no sense". I've met atheists with no college degree.
You can only argue averages on education, but even then, when any group of humans, including atheists forget that we have done horrible things in the past, that group is far more likely to repeat the same mistakes other groups have. My views on religion do not even make me a separate species.
When atheists say "we will treat you better" that is coming from a point and time in history being a minority that is where our empathy is coming from, not our common "off" position. But that doesn't mean future atheists will after the current population dies. We are still one species among many, and humans have always been both cruel and compassionate.
