(November 16, 2015 at 5:48 pm)Vic Wrote:"Religion or not" yea so, we know the west is far less religious on average, even our right wingers don't publicly execute people for picking the wrong religion. But I bet if you stripped the west of secular law, it would not take long for our right wingers to regress back into the Dark Ages.(November 16, 2015 at 5:36 pm)Evie Wrote: What the texts actually say actually matter you know.
That's why Harris ignores all the evil shit in the Bible? And Torah? And that's why he singles out Islam?
They all have vile bits and nice bits. They all have cherry pickers. Extremism is not the cause of violence, it's one of its symptoms. Not a reason, an excuse. Violent people and environments will continue to be violent and nurture hate, religion or not. Any philosophy could end up in its place.
The west became civil in spite of religion, not because of it.