RE: French Terror Attacks, scores dead
November 16, 2015 at 10:12 pm
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2015 at 10:13 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 16, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yes you not only can talk about the negative consequences of religiously motivated extremism, we all should be talking about that. All I said is that atheist not having that particular baggage will not automatically make all atheist saints(strike the word saints, they were not the nice guys people painted them out to be).
I know that but you said I implied otherwise. Where??? Why would I ever imply that atheists can't do bad things as much as anybody else? I said they can't do things that are motivated by their atheism. But religion on the other hand can be a motivational factor.
Quote:But one thing though, "extremism" is coddled by the moderates and the left, all be it well intended, under the guise of protecting pluralism.
I don't even think extremism is the problem, check my earlier posts in this thread. I only said extremism on this occasion to give you some leeway because I didn't want you to argue against that point I wanted you to focus on this claim you have made that I'm somehow implying that I believe atheists don't do bad things for other reasons. You claim I said lots of things that I didn't say. I pointed that out and instead of conceding on that point you said I implied it. But I didn't imply it at all I didn't say it implicity or explicitly. I am asking for you to tell me where I said what you claim I said, and if I need to I will go back and quote you on the absurd claim that you misrepresented me as making. It offends me that you could possibily think that I was such an idiot that I would actually think atheists are incapable of doing bad things as much as theists are. Not only did I not say it or imply it but since I didn't say or imply it why would you think I would think that? Do you really think that little of me?
Quote: The word "bigot" and "racist" while can apply rightfully to some, it unwittingly is also used to shut down criticism of religion. X Muslims and even some still in it who cant speak in public where they live that they want us to have those "politically incorrect" conversations. Ayaan Hirsi Ali a former Muslim would not agree with the left that it is always good to censor to keep the peace.
I agree. You seem to have shifted more to my perspective but you still need to admit to the claim you made saying I said something that I didn't say, whether it's explicitly or implicitly said I simply didn't say it. I would never imply something so ridiculous unless I was a complete idiot and I'm not.