(November 18, 2015 at 6:24 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:(November 18, 2015 at 6:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That is very true about dogmatic teachings not changing.
"Death Penalty = moral" was never a dogmatic Catholic teaching, but a practice of the time... though an awful and embarrassing one. But you are correct. Church dogmas don't change, and neither will they ever. A couple examples of these are the belief that Jesus is God, and the belief that Mary got pregnant with Jesus through the Holy Spirit. We believe them to be absolute truths, and truths don't change.
Well, that's a problem, CL. What is "absolute truth" has a pretty high bar. One plus one equals two is hard to exclude from that but Mary got pregnant with Jesus through the Holy Spirit is a far stretch to say the least. What do you have to justify that claim? How is that claim any different from the Muslim claims you find so abhorrent?
Lol how is believing that Mary got pregnant via the Holy Spirit different from believing that stoning adulterers is good and needs to be implemented worldwide? Come on, AFTT. Surely you see a difference? I understand you don't believe that about Mary, and that's totally fine of course. But that is not the same as killing someone by throwing stones at them because they slept with their husband's friend or something... and forcing the rest of the world to follow suit.
I think once you start hurting/killing other people and/or forcing them to believe the same things you believe, a definite line has been crossed when it comes to religion. It's not all the same.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
