(November 18, 2015 at 5:22 pm)Napoléon Wrote:According to the Koran muslims are not supposed to have non-muslim friends or do what non-muslims tell them to do. So by definition if a person identifies himself as a muslim why would you expect him to consider you as his friend?(November 18, 2015 at 5:14 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Younger generations are becoming less and less religious, I can't seem to find any friend who even goes to church regularly, but that is not the case with Muslims - I wonder if it has to do with immigration, or with some of them having proper Islamic schools even in countries like England?
From an English point of view, it appears to me to be down to their sense of identity. I get the real vibe that a lot of young muslims identify as "muslim first". By that I mean, they consider themselves muslim before they consider themselves English. Might seem a strange thing to say seen as one is a religion and the other a nationality (the stupidity of it is not lost on me), but the reality is that a lot of muslims in my experience have this kind of mindset. Or at the very least seem to.
Whenever I see groups of young muslim lads they seem very close knit. Even when they don't seem to know each other they still shake hands when greeting. I've seen shitloads of young muslims acting all pally with each other and saying "what up cuz?" and all this other shite. The one guy I went to uni with would speak to me every day, I'd greet him EVERY DAY. I thought we got on quite well. But he never ever shook my hand when we met, he never ever showed the same enthusiasm when he saw me. But he saw another random muslim guy in the hallway that he only knew by acquaintance and acted as though they were best buds.
People who don't often see this kind of thing will probably think it pointless nonsense that doesn't mean anything. But to me it's blatantly obvious that shit goes on behind closed doors and muslim families IMHO absolutely must be propounding and reinforcing a sentiment of "us and them", especially with the younger generations.
Remember, you are dealing with Middle Eastern religious and cultural beliefs. So even if the believer is not Jewish or Arabian he is expected to comply with those beliefs without exception. http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law...13-15.html
If a person says that he's religious but isn't a bigot then he's lying about being religious.
As Paul said in Galatians 1:8-9 (NKJV) = "8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."
Therefore, expecting a muslim to be your friend if you are not one is expecting him to turn his back on his doctrine which prohibits that and will cause him to end up in Islamic hell.