Ok my next question seeks to understand the central theme of redemption in Christianity.
How were people guided and saved by God's face during Abraham's time on earth?
How were people guided and saved by God's face during Jesus's time on earth?
Is there any real difference inwardly or is it a world of difference?
To me it seems the essence is to submit to the call of God's face. An Atheist who does good as he knows it might be submitting to God's face in the best way he can.
However, if someone recognizes Moses signs and miracles, but then, rejects them, he is be rebellious towards what has outwardly come to him of God's face (ie. Moses and his revelation).
What I want to understand is what changed all of sudden when Jesus came?
How were people suppose to repent and redeem themselves in the past, and be saved and guided, and get God's forgiveness through God's grace, that now changed all of a sudden when Christ came.
Or is it all misunderstanding and nothing really changed, but really Jesus was emphasizing, that Israel corrupted God's religion, inwardly were away from the spirit of God and his religion, and that now Jesus was their only salvation, and there was no other way for the people but to go through him.
At that without Jesus's intercession, it would mean God has not forgiven them, while it was still upon them to repent, but accept the door towards God (Jesus) at this point.
I want to understand how can the inward of the religion change all of a sudden into a drastic change? Or perhaps it didn't? Perhaps just as people had to enter the ark of Noah (metaphorical I personally believe in the Quran, not sure if it's metaphorical in the Bible), now people had to gain God's forgiveness and approval through entering the Mastery of God's anointed King and authority on earth, which was Jesus at that time.
How were people guided and saved by God's face during Abraham's time on earth?
How were people guided and saved by God's face during Jesus's time on earth?
Is there any real difference inwardly or is it a world of difference?
To me it seems the essence is to submit to the call of God's face. An Atheist who does good as he knows it might be submitting to God's face in the best way he can.
However, if someone recognizes Moses signs and miracles, but then, rejects them, he is be rebellious towards what has outwardly come to him of God's face (ie. Moses and his revelation).
What I want to understand is what changed all of sudden when Jesus came?
How were people suppose to repent and redeem themselves in the past, and be saved and guided, and get God's forgiveness through God's grace, that now changed all of a sudden when Christ came.
Or is it all misunderstanding and nothing really changed, but really Jesus was emphasizing, that Israel corrupted God's religion, inwardly were away from the spirit of God and his religion, and that now Jesus was their only salvation, and there was no other way for the people but to go through him.
At that without Jesus's intercession, it would mean God has not forgiven them, while it was still upon them to repent, but accept the door towards God (Jesus) at this point.
I want to understand how can the inward of the religion change all of a sudden into a drastic change? Or perhaps it didn't? Perhaps just as people had to enter the ark of Noah (metaphorical I personally believe in the Quran, not sure if it's metaphorical in the Bible), now people had to gain God's forgiveness and approval through entering the Mastery of God's anointed King and authority on earth, which was Jesus at that time.
