Why am I an agnostic atheist? I don't know!

[Ace Otana]

rrelevant. Whether is or not, the question is: "Can you ultimately know why you don't believe?".

Yes you can. As a sapient being, capable of reason and understanding. If asked "do I know why I don't believe" I can answer and tell you. I don't believe in god because I know of no reason or evidence to believe. So yes, you can 'know' why you don't believe.

My point is, sure, you can say you don't believe because you're unconvinced. But isn't that pretty much just stating "I don't believe because I don't believe" and giving a non-answer?

I don't believe because I know of no reason or evidence. I am of a critical scientific mind. For an argument to be convincing, it must be of reason and evidence. It must be rational, and by that I mean in accordance with the principles of logic or reason; reasonable. My standards require reason, logic and credibility. It is very much down to the person in question. Some see rational in claims even though there is no evidence or credibility in it. Their 'rational' is not rational from my view point. I know why I don't believe. I have my reasons.

"Because I haven't known of a logical argument or anything that remotely convinces me. Simple!" - maybe it is simple, but it doesn't actually answer the question whatsoever.

But I do think it answers the question. "why don't you believe?" "I don't believe because there is nothing reasonable, logical or credible about it for it to be convincing for me". It is an answer. I have given an answer to the question at hand.

because I'm not convinced"

But I have answered why I'm not convinced. Which should of put an end to all the bloody why questions. Instead of sending it into an endless loop.

I no longer believe that I know why I don't believe in God.

But I know why I don't believe. I am self aware. I am capable of thought, reason and understanding. I can tell you in detail why I don't believe. There shouldn't be any why questions after.

I can't answer the question "Why don't I believe in God?".

I can and have.

"Why haven't I known of any evidence of God's existence?"

Probably because there is no evidence for god's existence. Maybe there is, but if there is any, it's probably totally unknown to us.

It is true that I, myself, am not aware of any evidence, I don't know of any evidence, for God's existence. God's existence isn't evident to ME. BUT: This does NOT mean that there necessarily ISN'T any evidence for God's existence. So once again, I've answered nothing:

But here you have given a reason. You have answered the question. Knowing whether there is evidence or not doesn't matter. You don't know of any evidence for a god or gods. While at the same time, you lack belief in it. You are an agnostic atheist.
Fill in the missing gaps - You do not know whether a god or gods exist, you do know know whether there is any evidence for such a thing. You lack belief in god(s) because______? Is it because of lack of evidence? Lack of credibility? Logic? All three? They are answers to the question at hand. The question had been asked, and the answer given. There shouldn't be an endless loop of "why".

I don't know why I don't believe.

Perhaps You cannot answer why exactly. Perhaps you just find the idea of a god to be too unbelievable to believe. I on the other hand can answer why exactly and in detail. I was once unsure whether I believed or not. The fact that it made little or no sense to me, gave me reason to reject it.

"I don't have a reason to believe because I don't have a reason to believe".

I don't have a reason to believe because I know of no reason to believe. It's still an answer.
I do not see a pink orb in my living room because I cannot see a pink orb in my living room.
How you would answer it? I do not see a pink orb in the living room because_______?

How do you know it's irrational, illogical and incredible?

For one invisible and pink is a contradiction and so leads to illogical and incredible.
Also pink bunnies, which is a form of life on earth which require certain conditions to live. What is the likely hood of them existing under the moon's surface? Where is the logic for advance/complex life to exist on a lifeless body. Especially life that is identical to life on earth? So yes, I can say it's irrational, illogical and incredible. Given the knowledge and the application of the principles of logic and reason.

But how can you really know what's rational to believe or not if you don't really know what is evident besides your own awareness and you're not actually aware of whether invisible pink rabbits actually exist or not?

Through knowledge of our reality with our sapient minds with the application of logic and reason. What we consider rational is based on what we know now.

But how can you know WHY nothing has convinced you?.

The same way I know why I do not see a pink orb hovering in my living room. I cannot see one. I do not believe in god because nothing has (for me at least) pointed to that conclusion. I know why I don't believe good sir.

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Are you getting a slight head ake from all this thinking too?

How do you know it defines all reason?

Sorry, I should of put all known reason to me. I do not know of a reason for which supports it.

I don't know why I don't believe in God because I don't know why I'm not convinced, I'm just not.

Then that is the difference between you and me. I can say why I don't believe but you can't. This is where the endless "why" question is coming from. You can't say why, but I can. I know why I don't believe.

Just because you believe something is unconvincing in no way implies that it is actually unrealistic or irrational.

True, which is why I've added the word "perhaps" quite a few times. I made no claim. It is an opinion.

Because creationists believe evolution is unconvincing does that imply that it is unrealistic or irrational?

Firstly, creationists are the biggest jokes on earth. (Had to say it! ) They reject anything that goes against their deluded beliefs. NO matter how well something is supported.
They don't excersise logic and reason. If they don't see a a pink orb, they'll still say they believe it's there.
I guess it's all down to what is rational to you. Their minds are filled with wishful thinking.

It depends on your standards. Will you need evidence and credibility to believe in a very large extraordinary claim? or not?

"Why don't I believe?" leads to the conclusion: "I don't know".

For you.

So you haven't founded a convincing argument for God because you find God unconvincing?

Because for me, nothing I know of has pointed to the god conclusion. I do not see a pink orb in my living room because I cannot see a pink orb in my living room. I do not believe in god because I know of no reason or evidence that points to the existence of a god.
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Well that was fun.