(January 3, 2011 at 10:56 pm)Sarah Jane Wrote: Children stop bickering you are both wrong. I am right.
First of all, nice to meet you.
Now, I was not 'bickering', I was stating my views in response to those of another poster. Aside from demonstrating your arrogance I'm not sure what you thought that would add.
(January 3, 2011 at 10:56 pm)Sarah Jane Wrote: First god does not exist so he/she/it is out of the equation.
Now, while I am by definition and atheist, I am agnostic atheist in the sense that God as proposed by the major monotheisms is beyond natural investigation as such we can never 'know' for sure.
Obviously your position is one of a direct claim and as such you invite the burden of proof i.e. that is you need to demonstrate that God does not exist.
(January 3, 2011 at 10:56 pm)Sarah Jane Wrote: Secondly science is an ever expanding exploration - so, will we ever really know the answer? You see my thoughts are: The big bang could not occur unless there was something there to bang in the first place. Hence existence of some sort was there.
I fail to see how this has any relevane to the discussion. Obviously, current thinking on the matter is that pre-Big Bang there was some form of singularity or quantum wave fluctuations etc... These 'existed' in some form at least just prior to the event gut it really depends on how you classify 'existence'.
(January 3, 2011 at 10:56 pm)Sarah Jane Wrote: God appears to have come on the scene when oceans were already raging (refer to Genesis).
Actually the first lne of Genesis is;
"In the beggining God created the heaven and the earth"
Then we hear that this earth was without form and darkness covered the waters etc ... Again, I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at.
(January 3, 2011 at 10:56 pm)Sarah Jane Wrote: So my friends go read some info on the subject at decodedseries.com it will make you stop and think a bit.
Yeh ... I don' really want to but all those books to tell me what I can figure out for myself.
Thanks
Sam
"We need not suppose more things to exist than are absolutely neccesary." William of Occam
"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" William Shakespeare (Measure for Measure: Act 1, Scene 4)
"Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt" William Shakespeare (Measure for Measure: Act 1, Scene 4)