RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
December 1, 2015 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2015 at 9:40 am by Mudhammam.)
(December 1, 2015 at 2:43 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Generally speaking, I believe in the sanctity of human life. That something is "sacred" is one of those notions that I refuse to surrender to the religious. I think it's a meaningful and useful attribute to apply to those things that are in-of-themselves supremely valuable, and in my view if that can be said of anything it can certainly be said of certain classes of being. Though one could say that all sentient life in some way deserves to be treated ethically and with dignity, this especially applies to persons. At some point along in the development of a fetus, we have to demarcate between personhood and non, and I'm not comfortable treating the viable fetus as a nonperson for the same reasons that would be relevant to any other viable human being.(December 1, 2015 at 2:26 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Being against abortion seems like a first world luxury problem to me. But I respect your take on things, Nestor. What exactly are you against? Are you against the killing of a fetus for any reason whatsoever .. life of the mother, rape? Personally I find the idea of telling a woman who has been raped or is in danger of not surviving the pregnancy that what grows in her womb is not up to her.
Anyhow, until it becomes a discussion about legislation, I don't expect complete agreement on every moral issue and certainly not this one.
I wouldn't pretend to answer for him, but I'm personally against it simply out of emotional bias, which I'd rather not go into here. I won't deign to dictate what another person does with their own body,though, so that and three greenbacks will get you a cuppa at Starbuck's.
Further, my reasoning isn't only related to the ontology of beings; I also have concern for the dehumanization, desensitization, and devaluing of others which I think abortion can and does somewhat play a role, in terms of how society thinks, talks, and overall treats this issue. Morally, then, given my view, it doesn't matter to me if a woman is carrying her rapist's child, granting that it has reached the point of viability - before which I don't consider it an ethical matter. And even with that said, given the fact that it's in her body, I don't believe that we should try to police women. I would rather see antiabortion advocacy succeed in education and public opinion, not the court of law. So, I am still pro-choice.
I don't know what you mean by saying that to be against abortion is a "first world luxury," White.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza