RE: Attack at Planned Parenthood Clinic
December 2, 2015 at 2:31 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2015 at 2:34 am by Cecelia.)
Many anti-choiers applaud the actions of this shooter for 'saving' the lives of innocent fetuses. Of course if those fetuses happen to be at the Planned Parenthood Clinic after they're born, or become abortion doctors then they're totally okay with them dying.
Of course this sort of thing will always devolve into a pro-choice vs anti-choice argument.
All I'll say on that is this:
A woman should have a right to do what she wants with her body. Should a woman who is raped be forced to carry the child of her rapist? If you think so, then you think that her life doesn't matter. Because it's a life she has to carry inside her for 40 weeks, a constant reminder of the rape she endured. If you think not, then you think what you consider to be a 'human being' should be punished for the actions of their father. So I can't really follow the logic people go with in either case.
Carrying a child is far more than 40 weeks of weight gain, pain and vomiting. It impacts so many parts of your life. The job you have. how many places offer maternity leave? Yet most anti-choicers are also anti mandatory offered maternity leave. Recovering from having a child, even if you give up that child, is no easy task as most mothers will tell you. Those who've never given birth really don't know what it's like. It certainly doesn't happen overnight. You don't go "boom, ready to go back to work." after a couple of nights in the hospital. Then if you choose to keep the baby, you have to be able to financially support it. And if you give it up, you have to deal with the emotional detachment from your child too. It's easy to just say "Give it up for adoption!" If you have kids, then would you give your kids up? And if you don't, what makes you so sure that's such an easy decision to make? Oh and then you have the foster system, which the child has to go through. And many children are never adopted. Of course we also have many anti-choicers who think gays shouldn't be able to adopt, which reduces the number of potential adopters.
People love to make arguments that a fetus is a human being, and has a right to life. The problem is, that means that the woman doesn't have a right to choose what to do with her own body. If men were the ones who got pregnant, abortions would be available on demand at your local Wal-Mart. Nobody should be able to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. It's really that simple. As a mother of five daughters, and as a woman myself, I can't really fathom how other women can say that it's okay for people to tell them what they can do. How would they feel if the situation was reversed? What if they got pregnant, and then were required to get an abortion. Instead you'd have back alley deliveries.
It's too easy to forget that for many women, the coat hanger was once a symbol of fear.
If you want to reduce the number of abortions, that's fine. Contraceptive coverage is a good way to start. But outlawing abortion is to say that a woman loses the right to make a choice for herself once she gets pregnant.
Of course this sort of thing will always devolve into a pro-choice vs anti-choice argument.
All I'll say on that is this:
A woman should have a right to do what she wants with her body. Should a woman who is raped be forced to carry the child of her rapist? If you think so, then you think that her life doesn't matter. Because it's a life she has to carry inside her for 40 weeks, a constant reminder of the rape she endured. If you think not, then you think what you consider to be a 'human being' should be punished for the actions of their father. So I can't really follow the logic people go with in either case.
Carrying a child is far more than 40 weeks of weight gain, pain and vomiting. It impacts so many parts of your life. The job you have. how many places offer maternity leave? Yet most anti-choicers are also anti mandatory offered maternity leave. Recovering from having a child, even if you give up that child, is no easy task as most mothers will tell you. Those who've never given birth really don't know what it's like. It certainly doesn't happen overnight. You don't go "boom, ready to go back to work." after a couple of nights in the hospital. Then if you choose to keep the baby, you have to be able to financially support it. And if you give it up, you have to deal with the emotional detachment from your child too. It's easy to just say "Give it up for adoption!" If you have kids, then would you give your kids up? And if you don't, what makes you so sure that's such an easy decision to make? Oh and then you have the foster system, which the child has to go through. And many children are never adopted. Of course we also have many anti-choicers who think gays shouldn't be able to adopt, which reduces the number of potential adopters.
People love to make arguments that a fetus is a human being, and has a right to life. The problem is, that means that the woman doesn't have a right to choose what to do with her own body. If men were the ones who got pregnant, abortions would be available on demand at your local Wal-Mart. Nobody should be able to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. It's really that simple. As a mother of five daughters, and as a woman myself, I can't really fathom how other women can say that it's okay for people to tell them what they can do. How would they feel if the situation was reversed? What if they got pregnant, and then were required to get an abortion. Instead you'd have back alley deliveries.
It's too easy to forget that for many women, the coat hanger was once a symbol of fear.
If you want to reduce the number of abortions, that's fine. Contraceptive coverage is a good way to start. But outlawing abortion is to say that a woman loses the right to make a choice for herself once she gets pregnant.
