RE: Evidence God Exists
January 5, 2011 at 3:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2011 at 3:42 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
AngelThMan Wrote:And how many times must Christians point out that the effectiveness of prayer cannot be proven with scientific studies or tests? God will not allow it to happen. Think about it: If God wants belief in him and prayer to be based solely on faith, why would he allow any scientific test to yield accurate results? In fact, even if a test wasn't specifically conducted, but a random sample was taken later of people who prayed and people who didn't, God would know ahead of time and would nullify such study by equalizing the results.You do understand how these tests work, don't you?
The tests for prayer are simple - if prayer is effective, it'll yield results. Which is to say either prayer will work or it will not. The only way for god to foil these results are to NOT ANSWER THE PRAYERS (all of them) and have the results of praying be exactly the same as not praying.
So far, according to all attempts to measure such an outcome, not praying is exactly as effective as not praying. Thus, prayer is not effective at all. Saying otherwise just makes you look like you don't know what you're saying.
AngelThMan Wrote:Even if everyone died, it's because God had determined that their time on earth was up. If God wanted to save you, he would have found a way to keep you from getting on that plane.Or god doesn't exist and things happen anyway.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan