Actions speak louder than words, but nothing speaks louder than a feminist.
I'm aware that many (I'll even hazard most) feminists like to bandy about definitions like the one on the OP, insisting that anything falling beyond that isn't "true feminism" and that anyone willing to admit they support gender equality is a feminist whether they want the label or not.
There are two problems I have with that. First, that is the definition of gender egalitarianism. Feminism is about women's rights/issues. The etymology indicates it, and the history supports it. Why we're trying to de-feminize the word "feminism" is beyond me.
Second, that whole line of reasoning barrels right into "No True Scotsman" territory without looking back or feeling ashamed. What makes somebody a "True Feminist"? What makes somebody a false feminist? If somebody self-identifies as a feminist for reasons you don't agree with, who's right? Who's wrong?
In general, I find that YouTube atheists tend to be harsh toward feminism because they (the atheists) are usually skeptics, and they tend to be addressing legitimate connotations and stereotypes associated with the movement and the word (entitlement, misandry, lack of personal responsibility in regards to female sexuality, rampant demonization of dissenting views, poor support of claims in lieu of sensationalist tactics, etc.).
I'm aware that many (I'll even hazard most) feminists like to bandy about definitions like the one on the OP, insisting that anything falling beyond that isn't "true feminism" and that anyone willing to admit they support gender equality is a feminist whether they want the label or not.
There are two problems I have with that. First, that is the definition of gender egalitarianism. Feminism is about women's rights/issues. The etymology indicates it, and the history supports it. Why we're trying to de-feminize the word "feminism" is beyond me.
Second, that whole line of reasoning barrels right into "No True Scotsman" territory without looking back or feeling ashamed. What makes somebody a "True Feminist"? What makes somebody a false feminist? If somebody self-identifies as a feminist for reasons you don't agree with, who's right? Who's wrong?
In general, I find that YouTube atheists tend to be harsh toward feminism because they (the atheists) are usually skeptics, and they tend to be addressing legitimate connotations and stereotypes associated with the movement and the word (entitlement, misandry, lack of personal responsibility in regards to female sexuality, rampant demonization of dissenting views, poor support of claims in lieu of sensationalist tactics, etc.).
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
