RE: Young Earth Creationism Vs. Science (Statler Waldorf Contd)
January 7, 2011 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
Ashendant Wrote:Because I've checked the dictionary
What!? Facts don’t contradict themselves because the dictionary says they can’t? Does this mean that facts could contradict themselves before the dictionary was written? I am sorry; you are going to have to do better than that.
Quote: If facts where not truth then one of them had to be a lie, if natural facts contradicted, then we wouldn't exist because that's impossible
Ok, so first it was the law of no contradiction is valid because the universe can’t contradict itself. Then it was the law of no contradiction is valid because the universe is a fact and facts can’t contradict themselves. Now it is, the law of no contradiction is valid because facts are truth and according to the dictionary truth can’t contradict itself. So now the obvious question is, why can’t truth contradict itself?
Quote: Except that one appeared after they left culture that had those same laws... and they needed to keep order...
Still does not prove intellectual theft. Also, I find it hard to believe that the Israelites would have wanted to copy the commandments of a nation that had just enslaved them for decades. Besides, I thought most of you atheists didn’t believe the story of the exodus, but now you believe the Israelites really were in Egypt when it suits your position? Odd.
Quote: He might not speak specific to you but he speaks to catholic Christianity, he speaks with the voice of St. Peter, and can issue formal definitions of faith and morals
No he can’t. There is no biblical basis for the Pope’s authority on such matters. So you can’t argue against biblical accounts using his authority. Again, that is why we had the reformation. Sola Scriptura!
Ashendant Wrote:Statler Waldorf;113281 Wrote:[quote="Minimalist"]
Creationism provides an explanation for the natural and physical world so I am sorry, by definition it is a physical and natural science. Remember, your explanation for the natural world does not itself have to be natural, that’s naturalism, not natural science. So no, you didn’t beat me with the dictionary my friend. By your definition, you could not conclude that the greats like Newton, Kepler, Mendel, Blyth, and Bacon were all scientists. If these guys were not scientists then maybe being a scientist is not such a great thing to be haha.
Natural Science
–noun
a science or knowledge of objects or processes observable in nature.