to Minimlaist
You are militantly ignorant. You do not seek the truth. You just insult people on baselfess bull shit.
Hitler was not a fine Catholic; you are a liar. Proving further that you are an immoral shitty atheist. I can call myself a chair, that does not make me a chair. There are very clear teachings on what it means to behave like a Catholic. Anti-semetism has always been condemned by the Church, when the Church is speaking as a whole. Yes there are Catholics who do evil things. This does not mean the Church on a whole condones, or ever condoned such actions. It has in fact always condemned them. If anything Hitler was an atheist who used his Catholic birth as a way to get votes from a very powerful Catholic segment of Germany. The fact is Hitler thought of religion as something to trick people with, so that they will do your will. But he certainly was not a devout believer. Two of the greatest organized, thoughtfully intentional atrocities of all time were committed under atheistic regimes which sought to silence religion, and Christianity in particular: commmunism and nazism. When someone does evil in the name of Christianity they do it in a decietful and underhanded way, misleading poor ignorant folk to do things they otherwise would not do. With nazism and communism, people willingly and knowingly committed these great atrocities because they were materialist who understood that objective* good is a fiction to control people (if you are an atheist).
You are using the part is like the whole fallacy and I'm sure you know better, you just want to insult and prey on the ignorance of others by saying things that are superfluous to the point.
The idea of God is far more worthy of belief and based within reality then the stupid shit you keep spouting off. If you truly can't see that its because you've blinded yourself with hate. I don't come in here acting like its easy to see that God is real, or that atheism is clearly false. I come in here humbly saying I know its hard. I know intelligent, honest, good people have struggled with these questions and honestly come up on different sides. I'm just trying to give reasons why I think the side I came up on, in which I am among GREAT company, is a stronger side, and perhaps I can persuade someone else, perhaps not.
My tactic to persuade on the issue is to point out that the atheistic system has a much more troubleing view of humanity and Theism has a very beautiful view of humanity, sometimes. I know this does not mean that it is true. However, I believe that both systems are consistent and have some measure of legitimacy, and if this is the case I think, after much struggling one should arrive at the conclusion that Christianity is true, and that our reality is meaningless and irrational apart from faith. As we have to base are most basic apriori observations on faith, or something akin to it. Within Christianity man is the pinnacle of creation and he is loved and his meaing flows from an eternal omnipotent source.
Instead of honest dialouge you continually try to derail me using STUPIDITY that is not to the point and that is fucking useless, because I can sit here and say insulting things that are based half way in reality but in truth do not contribute to the arguement at all. Like men molesting other people is new to any people group. Teachers, family members, and people of all religions abuse people. As a matter of FACT Catholic clergy do it far less than nearly any other group like say teachers or family members. At least witin Catholicism we can objectively say that what they are doing is evil and will be punished, in this life or the next, with conviction.
You are militantly ignorant. You do not seek the truth. You just insult people on baselfess bull shit.
Hitler was not a fine Catholic; you are a liar. Proving further that you are an immoral shitty atheist. I can call myself a chair, that does not make me a chair. There are very clear teachings on what it means to behave like a Catholic. Anti-semetism has always been condemned by the Church, when the Church is speaking as a whole. Yes there are Catholics who do evil things. This does not mean the Church on a whole condones, or ever condoned such actions. It has in fact always condemned them. If anything Hitler was an atheist who used his Catholic birth as a way to get votes from a very powerful Catholic segment of Germany. The fact is Hitler thought of religion as something to trick people with, so that they will do your will. But he certainly was not a devout believer. Two of the greatest organized, thoughtfully intentional atrocities of all time were committed under atheistic regimes which sought to silence religion, and Christianity in particular: commmunism and nazism. When someone does evil in the name of Christianity they do it in a decietful and underhanded way, misleading poor ignorant folk to do things they otherwise would not do. With nazism and communism, people willingly and knowingly committed these great atrocities because they were materialist who understood that objective* good is a fiction to control people (if you are an atheist).
You are using the part is like the whole fallacy and I'm sure you know better, you just want to insult and prey on the ignorance of others by saying things that are superfluous to the point.
The idea of God is far more worthy of belief and based within reality then the stupid shit you keep spouting off. If you truly can't see that its because you've blinded yourself with hate. I don't come in here acting like its easy to see that God is real, or that atheism is clearly false. I come in here humbly saying I know its hard. I know intelligent, honest, good people have struggled with these questions and honestly come up on different sides. I'm just trying to give reasons why I think the side I came up on, in which I am among GREAT company, is a stronger side, and perhaps I can persuade someone else, perhaps not.
My tactic to persuade on the issue is to point out that the atheistic system has a much more troubleing view of humanity and Theism has a very beautiful view of humanity, sometimes. I know this does not mean that it is true. However, I believe that both systems are consistent and have some measure of legitimacy, and if this is the case I think, after much struggling one should arrive at the conclusion that Christianity is true, and that our reality is meaningless and irrational apart from faith. As we have to base are most basic apriori observations on faith, or something akin to it. Within Christianity man is the pinnacle of creation and he is loved and his meaing flows from an eternal omnipotent source.
Instead of honest dialouge you continually try to derail me using STUPIDITY that is not to the point and that is fucking useless, because I can sit here and say insulting things that are based half way in reality but in truth do not contribute to the arguement at all. Like men molesting other people is new to any people group. Teachers, family members, and people of all religions abuse people. As a matter of FACT Catholic clergy do it far less than nearly any other group like say teachers or family members. At least witin Catholicism we can objectively say that what they are doing is evil and will be punished, in this life or the next, with conviction.
