RE: Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;
January 11, 2011 at 9:57 am
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2011 at 10:31 am by KichigaiNeko.)
dqualk Wrote:KichigaiNeko Wrote:Poor dqualk ....
1. You are a catatonic
2. You seem to enjoy fairy-stories
3. You believe anything anyone tells you (so long as they are xtian)
4. You seem to still desperately need to believe in Santa Claus
We have our AWWW moments as you put them (how quaint)
I might suggest that you look at http://atheistforums.org/thread-5025.html for AWWW factor.
We live very meaningful and successful lives sans your sky-daddy (or any other version there of) I understand there is every reason to believe that your sky-daddy does not exist. But then it really doesn't make a great fairy-story and there is no happily ever after.
I can't beleive a person with an elf as their picture is trying to tell me about fairy tales.
Believe it Baby!! Ummm why are you so hung up about icons and avatars??? You believe in some poor male type figure in pain nailed to a cross don't you??
dqualk Wrote:You are militantly ignorant. It is a shame. You do your cause no justice by being stupid and insulting. To say that Theism is believing anything anyone tells you, or the same thing as believing in Santa Clause is to say that some of the greatest minds of all time, and indeed some of the greatest minds living today, are not only incorrect but absolutely stupid.
Correction..NONE of those 'great minds ' you refer to are theistic. Mind you ...I would rather believe in Santa Claus than your Jeebus/ God/ Allah
dqualk Wrote:Grow up you child. You're not a whorish looking dark elf, you are a human being, created in the Imago Dei with meaning, not fake decietful meaning, but real meaning which stems from the love of an eternal God, not subject to temporality.
Fuck yeah!! I've been called worse and by better than you kid. There is no god TO love and an uncaring universe will just recycle my atoms for the next supernova....just what is your point ?? Other than trying to insult me?? Let alone another alien species?? What a lovely little 'xtian' YOU are...nasty piece of work
dqualk Wrote:You have no idea what kind of dialouge that I am involved with.
Yeah...mind games are the pits eh??? Try talking to REAL people for a change.
dqualk Wrote:Perhaps I was raised an athesit and converted to Catholicism? It is certainly not unbelievable as there are many very intelligent people who have done so.
Many 'mental health clients/intelligent people' unable to come to grips with the Real world have done so... You are just riding on your own guilt trip (seems to me)
dqualk Wrote:You are a shameful person, and I believe you are one of those who atheism transformed into a worse person.
No... actually I am one of those whom Catholicism has turned atheistic....
dqualk Wrote:That is not to say that all who are or become atheist become less moral as a result, but I'm sure you were one of them. Shame on you.
And shame on YOU for coming here as a guest of this house and defiling it with your rhetoric....naughty person you!!
dqualk Wrote:There is no such thing as objective meaning or success within a material-only world. You're success is another man's very real failure; it is wholly subjective.
Another reason to ditch religion...what a nasty thing to say!!
dqualk Wrote:Your meaning is ultimately a lie that you beleive so that you do not commit suicide. As they say, the most important question in philosophy is, "should I kill myself?" For a Christian, and many Theists, the answer is simple, no there is a God who loves me and desires me to live and grow, to truly succeed. For an atheist the answer is either yes, or no becuase it is more pleasing at the moment to my material self to believe in a lie that anything I do is actually meaningful, or are you thinking at all?
KILL YOURSELF NOW dqualk AND SAVE THE PLANET THE TROUBLE!!
dqualk Wrote:Most likely you are just random atoms banging around producing some illusion that appears to be thought. Ultimately you become some utilitarian epicurean, who can no longer objectively say that there is a Truth, or at least an objectively meaningful Truth. And in this sense Hitler is a hero for those who enjoy Hitler's lie (or the materialist subjective truth).
And just what is wrong with Hedonism?? I am here, now is all I have, I will enjoy this life to the fullest and best of my capacity and the next supernovae can have my atoms.
Hitler was a Catholic...and as a Catholic _read Catatonic _ he was pretty fucked up emotionally and mentally...
A bit like you seem to be
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
