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Heaven would be good
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RE: Heaven would be good
(December 11, 2015 at 1:12 am)Vincent Wrote:
(December 11, 2015 at 1:03 am)wallym Wrote: Quibbling over whether a make believe place that makes you happy forever would actually make you happy forever is as silly as it gets.  If it were real, you'd be happy forever.  How you say?  Who the eff knows.  There's a magical place we'd be going to after we die if we were good with a big magic God thing in some alternate existence.  I'm pretty sure all logical bets of how long you could or couldn't stay happy for would be off in that scenario.

I like to discuss it. Why? Because I think hope for Heaven and an afterlife is one of the main reasons why religion and belief in God still exists - it helps people lay their head down at night. And it's important to me that I can show people who believe in such nonsense why it's not even a very good idea in the first place, and why the entire concept is ridiculous. Being a mindless drone condemned to experience happiness and only happiness (which is the opposite of free will) for the rest of eternity in a paradise that never ends is a disgusting concept. I don't want my fellow human beings believing in this garbage. Lessening the appeal might make people more willing to question the existence of it altogether.

This is a nonsensical way to go about what you're trying to do.  You don't know if you'd be a mindless drone.  You don't know what happiness would even be.  Our brains are in charge of emotions like boring/happy/mindless here in reality.  The brain doesn't go with us.  So who knows what's possible in imagination land.  

For the sake of argument we are pretending we're a made up undefined entity in a made up undefined (except that it is positive forever) place, and then you say that isn't possible because of what you know about the world we live in now that obviously has very different rules due to it existing.
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On top of which, not wanting fellow humans to believe in something that helps them lay their head down at night is a weird thing to be passionate about.
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Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 10, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Napoléon - December 10, 2015 at 6:37 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Cecelia - December 10, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by dyresand - December 10, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Minimalist - December 10, 2015 at 11:08 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Cyberman - December 10, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by brewer - December 10, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Chad32 - December 10, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Cyberman - December 10, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Edwardo Piet - December 10, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Cyberman - December 10, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Edwardo Piet - December 10, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Alex K - December 11, 2015 at 12:12 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Napoléon - December 11, 2015 at 6:27 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Drich - December 11, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 11, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Chad32 - December 10, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by drfuzzy - December 10, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Cyberman - December 10, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 10, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Homeless Nutter - December 10, 2015 at 11:22 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Vincent - December 10, 2015 at 11:48 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 10, 2015 at 11:56 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Vincent - December 11, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Cyberman - December 11, 2015 at 12:19 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Angrboda - December 11, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by henryp - December 11, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Vincent - December 11, 2015 at 1:12 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 11, 2015 at 3:01 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Vincent - December 11, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 11, 2015 at 5:25 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by henryp - December 11, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Divinity - December 11, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Iroscato - December 11, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Drich - December 11, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Longhorn - December 11, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Amine - December 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Heaven would be good - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 12, 2015 at 12:22 am
RE: Heaven would be good - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 12, 2015 at 12:52 am

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