(December 18, 2015 at 6:26 pm)abaris Wrote: Great. Bigots on one side and apologists on the other.
You probably don't even realize that you're playing the no true scottsman card here. Of course the radicals have everything to do with Islam - as they understand it. These conflicts have political as well as radical religious backgrounds.
I promised to open another topic discussing the role of certain Islamic beliefs on the violence being carried on and practiced by some Muslims.
You can find my comment about that here :
http://atheistforums.org/thread-40072.html
Anomalocaris
Quote:The role of Islam in these modern conflicts is one and the same.
Islam seriously retarded every culture is touched and hampered their attainment of modernity in social, economic and military terms. So Islam made the Islamic world the natural victims of the west. Islam's only response to the weakness its innate primitivism had inflicted upon its victims is to scream more stridently for more primitivism.
Islam is involved in so many wars because Islam made Muslims so ripe for the picking. Islam's influence upon its victims can be summarized as "incorrigibly backwards, incorrigibly in denial, and bitterly resentful of anyone who points that out".
The topic was never about culture, nor the impact of religion on it. Rather, it's about wars & conflict.
The claim is bigoted, and throws the crimes of the west on Islam. Plain & simple.
The Muslim world was not the only victim of western imperialism, and proof is wide that wherever natural recourses are, the west will be present with arms and weaponry to take its interest.
The native Americans are one example. The west's foreign policy is based on profiting from warfare, death, and bloodshed, blaming it on Islam is something bigoted and considered as blowing ash in the eyes to cover up something nasty.