(December 19, 2015 at 1:51 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: [
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The topic was never about culture, nor the impact of religion on it. Rather, it's about wars & conflict.
The claim is bigoted, and throws the crimes of the west on Islam. Plain & simple.
The Muslim world was not the only victim of western imperialism, and proof is wide that wherever natural recourses are, the west will be present with arms and weaponry to take its interest.
The native Americans are one example. The west's foreign policy is based on profiting from warfare, death, and bloodshed, blaming it on Islam is something bigoted and considered as blowing ash in the eyes to cover up something nasty.
So? Several other victims of western imperialism understood and embraced modernity. As a result they made themselves victims no longer. In fact, of all the cultures of any size and scope that ran afoul of modern western imperialism, almost everyone that weren't destroyed by the initial collision have managed to embrace modernity within 50-150 years or so and raised themselves to parity or near parity with the west in modernity, all but those blighted by Islam.
It is a necessary attribute for a culture to adapt that which is practically better. it say it is the crime of the west to pick on Islamic world is utterly irrelevant. To be weak and unable to become strong may be no crime, but it is a sure predictor of being picked on. To harp on those who pick on the weak while not address what kept the weak weak is about as useful as claiming gravity committed a crime by pulling a man who failed secure himself to his death, therefore men ought not to be blamed for not securing themselves.
Practically, Islam has been unable to surmount itself to become modern. Therefore it must either prevent the world from becoming modern, or it would become victim of one or another that does.
Islam's crime is doubled down on the utterly repulsive as well as utterly impossible goal of rolling back modernity, and have shown itself prepared to exact any price that seem necessary upon those it afflicted while in the vain pursuit of this objective, rather than either dying, or adapt itself to modernity. So either Muslims consign themselves forever to struggling feebly, and ever less effectually if more violently, against modernity, or Muslims must kill any aspects of Islam that ties Muslim societies to the desert primitivism, so those who had been Muslims can gain parity in the modern world.
