(December 19, 2015 at 8:10 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: So? Several other victims of western imperialism understood and embraced modernity. As a result they made themselves victims no longer. In fact, of all the cultures of any size and scope that ran afoul of modern western imperialism, almost everyone that weren't destroyed by the initial collision have managed to embrace modernity within 50-150 years or so and raised themselves to parity or near parity with the west in modernity, all but those blighted by Islam.
It is a necessary attribute for a culture to adapt that which is practically better. it say it is the crime of the west to pick on Islamic world is utterly irrelevant. To be weak and unable to become strong may be no crime, but it is a sure predictor of being picked on. To harp on those who pick on the weak while not address what kept the weak weak is about as useful as claiming gravity committed a crime by pulling a man who failed secure himself to his death, therefore men ought not to be blamed for not securing themselves.
Practically, Islam has been unable to surmount itself to become modern. Therefore it must either prevent the world from becoming modern, or it would become victim of one or another that does.
Islam's crime is doubled down on the utterly repulsive as well as utterly impossible goal of rolling back modernity, and have shown itself prepared to exact any price that seem necessary upon those it afflicted while in the vain pursuit of this objective, rather than either dying, or adapt itself to modernity. So either Muslims consign themselves forever to struggling feebly, and ever less effectually if more violently, against modernity, or Muslims must kill any aspects of Islam that ties Muslim societies to the desert primitivism, so those who had been Muslims can gain parity in the modern world.
Literally, you are saying : "it's either our way or the highway". You make me sick.
Wake up; the western way turned the world into a crowded-armed to the teeth-atomic fortresses, awaiting a spark to ignite their misery into a big mushroom cloud.
A world connected by a fragile and corrupted economy that is waiting to fall down any minute. I thought 2008 was an enough reminder, of what western imperialism did to the world ?
Those who "adapted" or let me say "mutated" will fall down with the rotten economy.
Now, an Islamic system based on "GOLD" instead of paper money and "moneylending with interest" would've savored the world this dark grim state.
Stuff changed a lot between 2000 and 2015. To the worst. Ask economists if you don't believe me.
The west, cornered itself and wired the whole world with it in a sealed room, with ton-load of bombs, with the sealing of the room leaking gas. That's the "legacy" of the west if you ask me.
