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Answered Prayers as Proof of God
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RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God
(January 14, 2011 at 10:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: Well Tack you said they would and they did, sad they do not understand how God cares for the ones who want to worship Him.

Your deity "cares for the ones who worship him" by standing by and doing nothing while his obedient servants suffer horribly painful afflictions such as cancer, arthritis, migraine headaches, etc... He also does nothing while natural disasters ravage the homes and lives of people who worship him.

Quote:You guys want God to just whiske away the problems of the world,why, so you can believe, it just does not work that way.

Maybe a platitude like this satisfies deluded believers, but, to me, it only exposes how weak the evidence is for the existence of your deity. And who said we expect your deity to "whisk away the problems of the world"? How about simply eliminating needless pain and suffering?

Quote:If you want results from your employer do you think its going to come because you ask him/her, or will the results come when you have shown your loyalty to said employer.

Pretty poor analogy. My employer is not omniscient and all powerful. In any case, if what you say is true, I would expect that nuns, priests, ministers and other clergy people would never suffer pain. All they would have to do is pray for "God" to end their suffering and he would! (After all, who shows more "loyalty" than a member of the clergy?) But we both know this isn't what happens. And you no doubt have some silly platitude to rationalize this obvious contradiction.

Quote:May be that God is waiting on a large group of people that are loyal to Him to ask that He help people to find clean drinking water

Oh, come on! This is the best you can come up with? And if this is true, let's get a large group of priests to pray for clean drinking water. That should do it, right?

Quote:so why don't you guys join in on the asking if you are so concerned about others.

Why would we pray to an imaginary being for anything? It does NO GOOD!

Quote:By the way what are you all doing to help those who need clean drinking water.

And what does this have to do with anything? Trying to avoid the question by turning it around on me?

Quote:I know that God has sent many people into the mission field to help with that very thing,

Uh, no. "God" hasn't sent anybody to do anything. The people that go on these missions do so voluntarily of their own free will. They were not ordered by some deity to pack their bags and go off on a mission.

Quote:maybe you guys need to go on a mission trip and see how others are doing Gods work with those who are in need.

There are many organizations around the globe that assist those in need without prosyletizing to people who are having a crisis. I'd rather go with one of them.

Quote:God's church provides more aide to the third world countries than you will ever know.

So what? See above comment.

Quote:God has said that He will work through mankind to help man, He wants us to be responsible partners with Him.

"God" said this? Really? When? Where? I missed it if it was in the newspapers.

Quote:We are responsible for the mess the worlds in

What a pantload. We are responsible for droughts, famine, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, killer microbes and intestinal parasites?

Quote:why is it that you think God should come behind us and clean up our mess,

How is it "cleaning up our mess" to ask your deity to cure children suffering from cancer? Or to restore sight to blind people? Or to make paralyzed people walk again?

Quote:is that what your parents did for you

Actually, yes. I think any good parent cleans up a mess caused by their kids if they can.

Quote:I think that you guys need to see the world and its problems for what they are

I think we do see the world's problems for what they are. Natural disasters, killer diseases, horrible accidents... these are all just the random things that happen to people in a dangerous world.

Quote:and quit blaming God whom you do not believe in for this mess we made.

Where have any of us "blamed god" for anything? We merely point out things that make no sense if your deity is truly loving and caring. We do say that if your deity actually exists and he does nothing to help a child suffering from cancer (when he is fully capable of doing so) that he is an incredibly heartless prick. But you give this deity a pass because.... Well, I really don't know why.

Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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Messages In This Thread
Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by FadingW - November 19, 2010 at 12:21 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by theVOID - November 19, 2010 at 12:49 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - November 19, 2010 at 1:23 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by thesummerqueen - November 19, 2010 at 3:41 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DeistPaladin - November 19, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Lethe - November 19, 2010 at 4:37 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by chasm - November 19, 2010 at 4:55 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Lethe - November 19, 2010 at 4:59 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Skipper - November 19, 2010 at 12:49 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - November 19, 2010 at 1:22 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - November 19, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Jazzykatt - November 19, 2010 at 4:30 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by downbeatplumb - November 19, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DANSURP - November 21, 2010 at 8:38 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by cdog - November 21, 2010 at 10:43 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DANSURP - November 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by cdog - November 22, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DANSURP - November 22, 2010 at 3:35 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Lethe - November 22, 2010 at 9:15 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by cdog - November 22, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Captain Scarlet - November 22, 2010 at 5:31 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DANSURP - November 22, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Captain Scarlet - November 22, 2010 at 7:35 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Strongbad - November 22, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Skipper - November 22, 2010 at 3:30 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - November 19, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - November 20, 2010 at 5:15 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Justtristo - November 20, 2010 at 7:16 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - November 20, 2010 at 9:20 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Skipper - November 20, 2010 at 10:16 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - November 20, 2010 at 10:47 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by downbeatplumb - November 20, 2010 at 11:17 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - November 20, 2010 at 11:33 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Ace Otana - November 21, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Captain Scarlet - November 21, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by theVOID - November 20, 2010 at 11:40 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by lilyannerose - November 21, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - November 21, 2010 at 11:13 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - November 22, 2010 at 1:14 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DANSURP - November 22, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - November 22, 2010 at 2:32 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Skipper - November 22, 2010 at 8:13 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - November 22, 2010 at 5:12 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by iCStiven - December 11, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Strappado - January 9, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by krazedkat - January 9, 2011 at 4:10 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Edwardo Piet - January 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Godschild - January 11, 2011 at 11:33 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 12, 2011 at 12:25 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2011 at 7:54 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - January 12, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Godschild - January 12, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - January 12, 2011 at 3:55 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Anomalocaris - January 12, 2011 at 4:24 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Ashendant - January 11, 2011 at 11:41 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by thesummerqueen - January 12, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 12, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by downbeatplumb - January 12, 2011 at 3:49 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by DeistPaladin - January 13, 2011 at 3:56 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 12, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Godschild - January 12, 2011 at 11:43 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - January 13, 2011 at 10:25 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - January 12, 2011 at 9:44 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 12, 2011 at 10:09 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - January 13, 2011 at 12:56 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 13, 2011 at 8:12 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by GANIMEDE - January 13, 2011 at 9:26 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by padraic - January 13, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 13, 2011 at 10:37 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - January 14, 2011 at 1:56 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - January 14, 2011 at 10:48 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Captain Scarlet - February 1, 2011 at 3:49 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Of_Tomato - January 19, 2011 at 7:59 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by theVOID - January 14, 2011 at 2:04 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Edwardo Piet - January 14, 2011 at 5:44 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 14, 2011 at 2:14 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Godschild - January 14, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by thesummerqueen - January 19, 2011 at 9:45 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - January 19, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Of_Tomato - January 19, 2011 at 5:08 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Captain Scarlet - January 21, 2011 at 12:40 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 15, 2011 at 12:53 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by tackattack - January 19, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - January 19, 2011 at 1:04 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by KichigaiNeko - January 20, 2011 at 7:06 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by KichigaiNeko - February 1, 2011 at 6:08 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Captain Scarlet - February 2, 2011 at 4:53 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Minimalist - February 2, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by Thor - February 2, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by bjhulk - February 7, 2011 at 8:54 pm
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by KichigaiNeko - February 8, 2011 at 4:42 am
RE: Answered Prayers as Proof of God - by bjhulk - February 8, 2011 at 8:00 am

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