Young Earth Creationism Vs. Science (Statler Waldorf Contd)

[Statler Waldorf]

Really? Who? Because no one mentions him in any contemporary text or document.

The historian and physician Luke tells us of numerous people observing Christ before and after his ressurection.

Bullshit. Creation proves nothing more than things were created. It is certainly not proof that some invisible man in the sky did the creating.

It's a good thing I didn't say it was proof of some invisible man in the sky then! It's proof of the Creator God.

Crappola. Did people living in the Americas prior to Columbus have "knowledge of god"?

Of course they did, they were just as much human as anyone else, despite what Darwin thought.

And what exactly does that mean anyway? I know there are people who believe in the existence of this god. I have no knowledge that he (or she, or it) is real.

Yes you do, you just surppress it in your heart.

"For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things."

Romans 1:20-23

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What about god he clearly lacks observable proof, so does everything in the bible lacks observable proof, how do you know that Jesus existed you only have a book that tells you that he did how observable is that?

Well I am not a complete empiricist. I believe that a lot of truth claims need to be observed, like the conclusions we are talking about here (the age of strata). Other truth claims do not need to be directly observed. People did directly observe Christ, it's a pretty fringe position to believe that Jesus of Nazareth never existed. As for God, He does not lack observable proof at all, creation is clear proof of a creator God, and every person has knowledge of God, many just suppress it in their hearts (Romans 1).

To me that's hypocrisy, and creation is not clear proof of a divine creator, the universe itself can only ultimately prove that it exists, and if you're not told about god you don't know about god, also the heart can only supress and release blood, the heart has nothing to do with emotion.

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Of course it is not hypocrisy, empiricism is a self refuting worldview, hence why I am not a complete empiricist. Some truth claims can be found without direct observation. Those not told about God are still aware of Him because his creation makes him apparent, so man is without excuse. As to the heart thing, it's a figure of speech there buddy, hence why every love song ever written talks about the heart.