RE: Evidence God Exists
January 23, 2011 at 1:07 pm
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2011 at 1:18 pm by OnlyNatural.)
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote:Quote:The world is so much more awe-inspiring and incredible just the way it is, without supernatural myths.What supernatural myths are we talking about here, hm? At what point in my argument did I bring up anything supernatural and/or mythical? Please point me in the direction of where I suggested such things so I can elaborate upon them.
Just to clarify, I wasn't referring to you or your arguments. I was referring generally to belief in the supernatural (God, heaven, etc.), and the religious mythology that is based on these beliefs.
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote: Who said anything about God 'poofing' anything into existence for His own 'pleasure'?
Perhaps that was a bit of an oversimplification. Although, looking over the first chapter of Genesis, maybe not. It's full of 'God created this and that, and saw that it was good, and he was pleased' etc. And I find that to be a gross oversimplification of the origins of the universe.
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote: I have pondered these things deeply. You seem to make the assumption, OnlyNatural, that I have given very little thought to my ideas and beliefs. On the contrary. I have thought long and hard, faced some difficult questions, and emerged on the other side to see that there was a point to seeking these things afterall.
Again, I wasn't making any assumptions about you, nor referring to your personal beliefs. I was simply answering your question about how, as an atheist, one might see the world.
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote: I think there's quite a lot comforting in that (evolutionary) struggle, thank you very much. I'm sorry you can't see it that way.
I said there 'might be' nothing comforting, to some people, but it depends on the individual. Personally, I think we're all extremely lucky to be here, given the odds against it. But that doesn't mean there was a god involved.
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote: You've never looked back? Not once? Interesting and worthy of note. Because perhaps it might be worth it to look back at least one time, and see if maybe you missed something.
'I never looked back' = 'I never went back to believing in God, once I stopped believing.' Sorry if that was confusing.
But I have looked back at the beliefs I used to hold, many times. And I've thought about them a lot. But the more I analysed them, the less sense they made. And I got tired of having to compartmentalize my beliefs to keep them safe from rational thought.
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote: I know the truth is out there. I've seen it, beheld it, felt it in my very being...and it is fantastic.
You've 'seen' it? I doubt it. You've 'felt' it? I'm sure you have, but that doesn't make it true.
(January 23, 2011 at 2:08 am)Watson Wrote: I must say, OnlyNatural, the only reason I responded to you was because I felt the need to word my thoughts properly for my own sake...Were it not for that, I would not have bothered, because your's is honestly an argument and mindset that I have seen regurgitated again and again on this forum. It is, frankly, pathetic.
I'm actually happy to hear that my 'argument and mindset' is quite common on this forum. I see nothing pathetic about it; apparently, I'm among friends.