(December 27, 2015 at 8:46 am)Brian37 Wrote:This is one of the most thought provoking challenges I've seen to theism on this board.(December 27, 2015 at 5:44 am)Delicate Wrote: Why would evangelicals reject that miracle account? I don't see why that must be the case. I haven't investigated it, but I don't know that it's false either.
Likewise with the assumptions undergirding Jesus' bodily resurrection. What exactly is the problem with these assumptions? You haven't shown that they are problematic.
As for Matthew 27, that is one of the more challenging passages of the account. But it's not challenging for the reasons you've mentioned. There is no evidence for your claim that nobody but believers noticed the body.
The assumption that if a Roman soldier saw it they would automatically make it part of secular historical canon is absurd: historical writings were very difficult to perform at that point in time, and not all monumental, even miraculous events of the time were recorded. I think you need to put a finer point on your objection here. Are you saying the Bible ought to confirm it?
As it is, it's not obvious what the problem is for the religious believer.
None of that book was written during the alleged claimed time of the Jesus character's existence. The NT was written way after the fact. The entire bible itself took over 1,000 years and 40 authors with books left out.
I find it absurd that believers will claim their deity to be all powerful, blinks all this with a poof, into existence, but cant or wont poof one book into existence? And on top of that writes competing versions humans fight over.
I would not hire such an inept being to run a bicycle factory. The bikes would end up with squid for spokes and the workers would murder each other over the competing assembly manuals.
QM will not defend Christianity, or Islam, or Jewish or Hindu, or any deity claim. It s not a science used to prop up old books by any name. The god of the gaps argument does not work for any religion.
If QM= "Anything goes because you cant disprove it" then if the Jesus character had been beheaded instead of nailed to a cross, QM could have him magically regrow his head. Funny how we never see humans come back from a decapitation.
It's almost like you're out of place here
But before I respond to your points, I want some clarity on what exactly you are arguing for. Are you arguing merely that you don't find the Biblical.account reliable, or that nobody in their right mind can find it reliable?