OnlyNatural Wrote:Your question was:Totally understandable miscommunication, don't worry about it.
Watson Wrote:So tell me. What is it that you now see in life, as an atheist, that you did not see before as a believer? And on the flip side, what is it that I(as a believer) must be missing now?
When I answered the question, I meant to address the first part only, about how I see life as an atheist. I realize now I should have only quoted that part.

Quote:Here's the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of 'supernatural:'I suppose that, dictionary definition speaking, God and the concept of is supernatural by nature. However, I find these things to be very natural...so the idea of applying such a term to them is odd to me.
Quote: SUPERNATURAL:
1: of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe; especially: of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil
2 a: departing from what is usual or normal especially so as to appear to transcend the laws of nature
b: attributed to an invisible agent (as a ghost or spirit)
Quote:I can't say I know for sure. Love is one reason that comes to mind, but I don't claim to know what the beginning and end purpose of the universe is at all. Only God knows that. And love is probably too ambiguous for you as an answer.(January 24, 2011 at 10:58 am)Watson Wrote: Why wouldn't He be pleased with the creation of he universe? I know I would be if I had just created an entire universe. It doesn't say He created the universe for the sole purpose of His own pleasure, however.
What were some of his other reasons? I'm genuinely curious.
Basically, I don't know.

Quote:And that still doesn't explain anything. It's an unnecessary inference based on no evidence.First of all, what evidence could they have had? They lived in a time when the extent of their scientific knowledge was very little. The Bible was not written to scientifically explain the way in which God works, but to explain the spiritual, emotional, mental, and physical processes of God and His relation to mankind.
It's like expecting a cook book to include instructions on how to roll cigarettes.
Quote:It makes our current problems seem less significant sometimes, compared to the vastness of time and space. But eventually we do have to get back to living our lives now, because this life is all we have.I concur with that sentiment, we can't spend all of our lives speculating on these things. We either live by them or we don't. This life is the only one in which we have to experience things through our current, unique mind.
Quote:I'm curious, do you believe that God was behind the processes of evolution, or that he shaped these processes so that we could all be here today?Yes.
Quote:Because I've never heard of anyone presenting observable evidence of God's existence.There's a lot more of it out there than you think. You might not be looking in the right places for it, is all.
Quote:Was there something you saw that unambiguously confirmed his existence, and could not be explained in any other way?A lot of things. I've mentioned them to many people throughout this forum many times, and been refuted every time. haha I doubt you'd be any different, so I wont bore you with the details.
Quote:Are there other witnesses who could back you up?If by 'witnesses' you mean others experiencing similar phenomena and connecting them in similar ways, than yes. I'd say there are probably millions, if not billions, of 'witnesses' to back me up.
Quote:Yet those are still subjective experiences; ie. feelings you have, thoughts that occur to you, a sense of contentment, or a sense that something has a deeper meaning. Everyone has these kinds of experiences, but not everyone attributes them to a divine source. And they are certainly not evidence that a divine source objectively exists.And who is to contradict me on my subjective view, or its validity? Everything we experience is subjective by nature, and must be as such. We are subjective entities. Why should one subjective claim hold anymore weight than another unless there is an objective which can be tapped into?