(December 29, 2015 at 3:39 am)Nestor Wrote:(December 29, 2015 at 12:46 am)Delicate Wrote: Once again, I'm saying that the way people anthropomorphize natural entities is not the same way people anthropomorphize God.Ha, really? Try "Jesus Christ" (I'm no fucking mythicist, 'scuse my French). Considered by his followers to be divine, by the rest of the world as a fraud, a charlatan, a religious zealot, a political antagonist, an impious deceiver, to the 2nd century writer Lucian, a "crucified sophist," etc. The part of that statement that matters is that he was believed by his followers, as a prophet at first, then greater than Moses and Elijah (the Law and the Prophets), by the most ecstatic, the Messiah, then the "Son of God," and after his final act (his death as the "sacrificial lamb," not his resurrection) which earned him legendary fame (a far grander story than that of the Cynic Peregrinus under the reign of March Aurelius, which got some attention), resulting in the idea of Jesus physically resurrecting and hanging around on earth for an additional month and a half, to be carried "up into the heavens," where he would forever sit at the right hand of God's, his Father no less (hey Greeks and Romans, sound familiar?) throne. Why should that sound crazy absent of "physical phenomena" extending beyond the mysticism, unhealthy obsession with imaginative realities, sheer delusion, ignorance, overall uncultured religious fantasies that graced, in varying degrees, his most devoted handful? Take a moment and consider every popular, local cult existent in the world right now, and think of all the reasons for which you reject it. Yet there are people who are actually wholly convinced, just like the poor and uneducated, even the slave class, of whom the Christians primarily converted in the first 200 hundred years. If it's not anthopomorphization when they give God a virgin mother - and maybe that isn't embarrassing to some but it would be to me - then when is it?
With nature, people look at phenomena (like rain) and infer its the physical result of divine action.
Can you point to a shred of evidence where this happened with Christianity? What physical phenomena led to invoking a God?
Do you realize that belief in God for both Christians and Jews predated Jesus?
So how can Jesus represent the origin of anthropomorphic deity ascription for either tradition?
And moreover, how is any of your revisionist ham-history about Jesus analogous to deity ascription to weather patterns and natural disasters?
You totally lost the plot here. Saw a chance to preach and immediately got swept up in the fervor.