One thing I believe is true, is that if God wanted us to believe in him, he would program us with clear knowledge of Him like he programmed us with knowledge of other things.
That said, let's assume we are programmed with this knowledge. Not only are we programmed with this knowledge, but we are constantly looking at reality, that is pointing to us to his existence and oneness.
Now to me, humans often become heedless of things they know and take it for granted. I don't think God would punish people while they are in this heedless state. There is however a heedless state that is a step further. That is when we have clear reminder to this knowledge, remember it fully well, see it, see clearly the signs of it in ourselves, yet, with the impure part of us taking us over and we giving power to it, decide to doubt it and deny our knowledge of it.
How should this disease be addressed? It's an illness if this was the case. It's a disease in the soul. The uncleanness must be rooted out. But how? God can not warn us, leave us to ourselves, and he being the most greatest treasure and valuable one to have relationship to, we would be without the greatest purpose we can have. We would be given such a great purpose, but unjustly breaking that trust.
When we kill ants, it maybe bad, for no reason to do that, but I would saying cheating on your wife is a whole worse or beating your kids is a whole worse, even if these two don't result in death of a being like stepping on ants.
God although we cannot harm, is the ultimate being. That said, there maybe so much indications in reality and in ourselves and in our programmed knowledge, of God and his Oneness, and if we are reminded with many proofs, and turn away from it, what is the injustice? Why are we doing this?
The Islamic position is that it's a great evil, an injustice. Humans also want to eat their cake and have it to. They seem to want to be evil often but convince themselves they are good.
This is indicate right off the bat "They say we are but peacemakers, now surely they are the mischief makers, but they do not perceive".
That said, a lot of Quran does focus on the proofs, but a lot of focus on the disease of refusal to acknowledge proofs.
Why did I begin with this? Because this is the other side of the equation I feel you don't acknowledge. You feel it's impossible humans have such a disease, while I witness it clearly regarding the Sunni-Shia issue.
I'm not telling you to accept humans have such a disease. I am arguing, at least, in this discussion, it should be taken as a possibility. A rational possibility.
When we do a great wrong, our parents are very harsh. There should be a majestic eloquent harsh tone to this disease in my belief if God were to warn humanity about it.
This is our nature. This is how we talk to each other. This how we try to guide those who we care about.
That said, let's assume we are programmed with this knowledge. Not only are we programmed with this knowledge, but we are constantly looking at reality, that is pointing to us to his existence and oneness.
Now to me, humans often become heedless of things they know and take it for granted. I don't think God would punish people while they are in this heedless state. There is however a heedless state that is a step further. That is when we have clear reminder to this knowledge, remember it fully well, see it, see clearly the signs of it in ourselves, yet, with the impure part of us taking us over and we giving power to it, decide to doubt it and deny our knowledge of it.
How should this disease be addressed? It's an illness if this was the case. It's a disease in the soul. The uncleanness must be rooted out. But how? God can not warn us, leave us to ourselves, and he being the most greatest treasure and valuable one to have relationship to, we would be without the greatest purpose we can have. We would be given such a great purpose, but unjustly breaking that trust.
When we kill ants, it maybe bad, for no reason to do that, but I would saying cheating on your wife is a whole worse or beating your kids is a whole worse, even if these two don't result in death of a being like stepping on ants.
God although we cannot harm, is the ultimate being. That said, there maybe so much indications in reality and in ourselves and in our programmed knowledge, of God and his Oneness, and if we are reminded with many proofs, and turn away from it, what is the injustice? Why are we doing this?
The Islamic position is that it's a great evil, an injustice. Humans also want to eat their cake and have it to. They seem to want to be evil often but convince themselves they are good.
This is indicate right off the bat "They say we are but peacemakers, now surely they are the mischief makers, but they do not perceive".
That said, a lot of Quran does focus on the proofs, but a lot of focus on the disease of refusal to acknowledge proofs.
Why did I begin with this? Because this is the other side of the equation I feel you don't acknowledge. You feel it's impossible humans have such a disease, while I witness it clearly regarding the Sunni-Shia issue.
I'm not telling you to accept humans have such a disease. I am arguing, at least, in this discussion, it should be taken as a possibility. A rational possibility.
When we do a great wrong, our parents are very harsh. There should be a majestic eloquent harsh tone to this disease in my belief if God were to warn humanity about it.
This is our nature. This is how we talk to each other. This how we try to guide those who we care about.
