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Is world better without Saddam?
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RE: Is world better without Saddam?
(December 30, 2015 at 12:26 am)excitedpenguin Wrote:
(December 29, 2015 at 5:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's one of the most outstandingly stupid things I've heard in a long time.  It is no more morally right to launch a pre-emptive war than it is to shoot someone on the off chance he might decide to rob a bank someday.

Boru

That is a laughably false analogy.

I'll admit that it's somewhat flawed (all analogies are), but I don't think it qualifies as 'false'.  The point is whether or not you can punish an actor (either a State or an individual) for crimes not yet committed.   Hussein was a thug and a brute, no possible doubt, but the fact, as real as a fist in the face, was that he hadn't committed an act of war against the US or its allies or even its interests.  The first Gulf War, the one based on the invasion of Kuwait, was different.  He had committed an act of war and got his arse handed to him for his troubles.  But none - absolutely NONE - of the reasons given for the sequel either panned out or justified that war.  It was a war of political economics and expediency, and the nightmare situation today in the Middle East is the direct result.  The steaming great hypocrisy of the US justifying the war by saying that Hussein was an existential threat is utterly laughable and morally repugnant.  The three real reasons that Saddam was attacked were:  1)  The US desperately needed something to bomb after 9/11;  2)  Attacking Iraq was politically more expedient than attacking North Korea; and 3)  I won't come right out and say it, but here's a hint:  It rhymes with 'fetroleum'.

But back to the analogy:  Saddam was attacked and deposed based on what he might have done.  This is directly analogous to an individual being incarcerated or executed for a crime they might eventually commit.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 29, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 29, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 29, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 29, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 29, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Jenny A - December 29, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 29, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 29, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 12:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Excited Penguin - December 30, 2015 at 12:26 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2015 at 5:15 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Excited Penguin - December 30, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 29, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 29, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by CapnAwesome - December 30, 2015 at 12:10 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 4:00 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 29, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 29, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 29, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by brewer - December 29, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 29, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 12:31 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 12:34 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Mister Agenda - December 30, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 8:27 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 11:16 am
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RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 12:20 pm
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RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 12:44 pm
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RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by cocunningham - December 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by downbeatplumb - December 30, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2015 at 6:07 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 5:15 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 5:18 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Napoléon - December 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:23 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 30, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 30, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2015 at 6:38 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Minimalist - December 31, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 30, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by TrueChristian - December 31, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by Thumpalumpacus - December 30, 2015 at 10:52 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 7:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by bennyboy - December 31, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by dyresand - December 31, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by abaris - December 31, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Is world better without Saddam? - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2015 at 1:50 pm

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