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Thought Without Limit
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Thought Without Limit
To think is to imagine. Without the imagination, we would not have most of the techological, scientific, innovative things that we daily depend upon to be there for us.

The imagination is so powerful that it can construct anything. The imagination can conceptualize that which does not exist.

When it comes to the imagination, how does one properly function between its persistent calling and that of the daily mundane trudge through life that we perceive to be reality?

When does imagination end and reality begin? Of course, we already have a perfectly viable universal understanding of that which separates reality from imagination.

It is referred to, in its simplest form, as logic. Reason, if one would.

One can use all the tricks in the book to discount that which is apparently true, but unfortunately logic will always win because logic is veritably grounded in reality.

What we understand as reality can only be that as we understand and perceive it to be. It cannot be something else or something more that is invisible, because to state that there is something for which we cannot currently account is to give summarily over to an overactive imagination.

Reality itself states, through countless centuries of study relating to the natural world around us, that nothing of supernaturla properties exists.

That which was unknown or seemed unnatural could always be explained through natural explanations. That which could not be properly explained, was not given the title of "supernatural" by anyone except those with their overactive imaginations. After all, those who sought answers, rather than already thinking they had the answers, understood that the answer for the time was simply "I don't know."

In a world where we place a great deal of emphasis on the imagination, whereby it catches our interests through the media via books and movies, it is understandable that people are easily confused between fiction and non-fiction.

In a world where the truth is less important than the latest comforting lie that suits the individual, a diet that does not work or a self-help book that does anything except, it is no wonder that people end up confused. After all, it has always been the job of those creating the ideas to place in the minds of others to ensure they end up as confused and as compliant as possible.

Gullibility. It is a big word, and for a reason. Too many people are gulllible to that which they want to believe is true rather than accepting the fact of the truth that they cannot have what they want. They create their own reality rather than accepting reality as it is.

The mind is capable of far more than merely sitting as matter in a vat. The mind creates for most their own reality, and unfortunately for them it is an unreality that they perceive as real.

Religion is one of those unrealities. It is nothing more than the comforting lie man has told himself in order that he can escape the harsh reality of life.

There are many other unrealities man convinces himself are real, for certain, but religion just happens to be the one that is the most detrimental to man's progress as a species.

The species cannot survive when it is reliant upon a comforting lie, because the lie will always prevent the progress that is needed. The religious lie is so clouded in mutterings of live and let live that the dangers of the lie are ignored for the continuance of harm that the lie produces.

The religious lie can only end when man stops making excuses for the that which has only and still only wants to see a world of Stepford Christians than a Universal Diversity.

Thought without limit creates the religious lie that pollutes the mind. Thought without limit can also create the freedom from religion that cleans the mind.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Thought Without Limit
Interesting...

When I was still using drugs, I experienced hallucinations that were almost indistinguishable from 'real' experiences on a couple of occasions. I have also had many dreams that were extremely realistic.
I strongly suspect that a lot of religious experiences are actually the results of a kind of benign psychosis. A psychiatrist once told me that psychosis can be similar to dreaming while being awake.
If the prophet Muhammed did exist, I suspect that he had some kind of psychotic break. I base this on my reading of 'Muhammed' by Karen Armstrong -- an exellent book that I really recommend.






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































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RE: Thought Without Limit
(April 28, 2014 at 4:29 am)Kitanetos Wrote: To think is to imagine. Without the imagination, we would not have most of the techological, scientific, innovative things that we daily depend upon to be there for us.

The imagination is so powerful that it can construct anything. The imagination can conceptualize that which does not exist.

When it comes to the imagination, how does one properly function between its persistent calling and that of the daily mundane trudge through life that we perceive to be reality?

When does imagination end and reality begin? Of course, we already have a perfectly viable universal understanding of that which separates reality from imagination.

It is referred to, in its simplest form, as logic. Reason, if one would.

One can use all the tricks in the book to discount that which is apparently true, but unfortunately logic will always win because logic is veritably grounded in reality.

What we understand as reality can only be that as we understand and perceive it to be. It cannot be something else or something more that is invisible, because to state that there is something for which we cannot currently account is to give summarily over to an overactive imagination.

Reality itself states, through countless centuries of study relating to the natural world around us, that nothing of supernaturla properties exists.

That which was unknown or seemed unnatural could always be explained through natural explanations. That which could not be properly explained, was not given the title of "supernatural" by anyone except those with their overactive imaginations. After all, those who sought answers, rather than already thinking they had the answers, understood that the answer for the time was simply "I don't know."

In a world where we place a great deal of emphasis on the imagination, whereby it catches our interests through the media via books and movies, it is understandable that people are easily confused between fiction and non-fiction.

In a world where the truth is less important than the latest comforting lie that suits the individual, a diet that does not work or a self-help book that does anything except, it is no wonder that people end up confused. After all, it has always been the job of those creating the ideas to place in the minds of others to ensure they end up as confused and as compliant as possible.

Gullibility. It is a big word, and for a reason. Too many people are gulllible to that which they want to believe is true rather than accepting the fact of the truth that they cannot have what they want. They create their own reality rather than accepting reality as it is.

The mind is capable of far more than merely sitting as matter in a vat. The mind creates for most their own reality, and unfortunately for them it is an unreality that they perceive as real.

Religion is one of those unrealities. It is nothing more than the comforting lie man has told himself in order that he can escape the harsh reality of life.

There are many other unrealities man convinces himself are real, for certain, but religion just happens to be the one that is the most detrimental to man's progress as a species.

The species cannot survive when it is reliant upon a comforting lie, because the lie will always prevent the progress that is needed. The religious lie is so clouded in mutterings of live and let live that the dangers of the lie are ignored for the continuance of harm that the lie produces.

The religious lie can only end when man stops making excuses for the that which has only and still only wants to see a world of Stepford Christians than a Universal Diversity.

Thought without limit creates the religious lie that pollutes the mind. Thought without limit can also create the freedom from religion that cleans the mind.
It's nice that you have managed to free yourself from the limitations of paragraphs and of structured ideas. Must feel so liberating!
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RE: Thought Without Limit
(April 28, 2014 at 6:18 am)bennyboy Wrote: It's nice that you have managed to free yourself from the limitations of paragraphs and of structured ideas. Must feel so liberating!

I hate to say it, but... Yeah.






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































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RE: Thought Without Limit
Perhaps drunken rant should have been the title, hehe.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Thought Without Limit
(April 28, 2014 at 10:37 am)Kitanetos Wrote: Perhaps drunken rant should have been the title, hehe.
Not that I have anything against druknen rants really, but... Yes.






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































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RE: Thought Without Limit
What is surprising to me is that the religious experience is built out of the brick and mortar of everyday experience. We don't see another person's mind, yet we assume it is there. Is it so strange then that we leap to postulating other unseen minds in places that they aren't? Raising your arms to the sky, singing, dancing, touching each other — these are perfectly ordinary experiences, yet they cause major changes to our state of mind through the influx of hormones into the blood, physiological changes, and activation of mood states in the brain. Out of these ordinary bricks, a powerful religious experience can be built. I would say the failure of your imagination here is in not realizing how well-grounded the bricks which make up the religious experience are, how firmly rooted in real, everyday experience they are. Yes, there are fantastic elements in religion, but if it weren't for these other elements, religion wouldn't have the power over us that it does. Without the mundane mental and physiological effects of ritual and belief, religion would be a pale ghost that appeals to no one. It would be "too disconnected," and "too imaginary."
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RE: Thought Without Limit
What is surprising to me, is that the religious experience is built out of the brick and mortar of everyday experience.
We don't see another person's mind, yet we assume it is there. Is it so strange then that we leap to postulating other unseen minds in places that they are not?
Raising your arms to the sky, singing, dancing, touching each other — these are perfectly ordinary experiences, yet they cause major changes to our state of mind through the influx of hormones into the blood, physiological changes, and activation of mood states in the brain.

You seriosly need an editor, girl.






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































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