RE: New vid: argument from ignorance explained through mining
December 30, 2015 at 9:21 pm
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2015 at 9:21 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 30, 2015 at 8:35 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: I agree that atheists tend to overuse these sorts of arguments with people who either can't grasp them or don't care to and thus poison the conversation for nothing. Theists are people, first and foremost, not philosophy minors who need their fallacies pointed out. You need to establish a common ground first, and then make them see for themselves why their arguments are not solid, if they aren't.
As long as it is pointed out why their argument is fallacious, and why it invalidates their argument, I see no problem pointing them out as soon as they are used.
I agree, common ground has to be established. And the most fundamental common ground is for all arguments being used to be valid and sound.
As far as I'm concerned, pointing out fallacies, and explaining why they are, will make the theist a better debater.
It's not our fault that the arguments used by theists are fallacious.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
